[IMC-US] all volunteer PROPOSAL

[bht]

hi aaron.

i think it would be great to hear your reservations.  and as for all
volunteer collectives, well portland imc is a good example and houston imc
is obviously an example.

bht

ahhh! Aaron Couch
> i disagree with the volunteer proposal.
>
> however, it appears that the majority of people support it.  if it does
> pass,
> i would ask that the rationale for 'all volunteers' be articulated in
> terms of the goals and vision of the site.  i think that the short
> visioning process at the meeting is a good corallary to the volunteer
> proposal and place where this can happen.
>
> i would like to throw my two cents in as far as vision and goals and
> volunteers but am resisting doing so b/c it has been stated that this
> is not the place for that debate, and that the meeting is an
> opportunity to share those ideas.
>
> since it appears that this debate has occured before, could someone
> point me to the archives of and threads of the different perspectives?
> are there written sources or succesful examples of 'all volunteer'
> organizations that could frame this discussion?
>
> best,
>
> -Aaron
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:27:42 -0800 (PST), bht <bht at indymedia.org> wrote:
>> perhaps in this irc discussion we can also talka bout some visions that
>> we
>> have for the site and see if we can come up with anything common and
>> play
>> on that.
>>
>> it would be cool if folks that wanted to be involved threw out a couple
>> day/times (and zones) that usually work best for them.
>>
>> and any agenda items they would like to see discussed.  apparently the
>> agenda already looks like this:
>>
>> 1.  decision making
>> 2.  houston volunteer proposal
>> 3.  short visioning ( where folks can just throw out any visions they
>> have
>> for the site and then they can be compiled and perhaps at a later
>> 'meeting' they cn be processed )
>> 4.  site layout/design
>> 5.
>> 6.
>>
>> it would be better to keep agenda items short becuase meetings over
>> machines tend to be hard.  so many just picking out an arbitrary amount
>> of
>> agenda items and procesisng them as best possible.  any takers?
>> bht
>>
>> ahhh! max
>> > I ALSO  think that this is a good idea.
>> >
>> > but I think it would make sense to have an IRC meeting and decide on a
>> > decision making process for this list first.
>> >
>> > max
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting bht <bht at indymedia.org>:
>> >
>> >> i also think it is a good idea to adopt this somewhere in our
>> articles.
>> >>
>> >> does anyone have a suggestion for consensing/voting/adopting this.
>> >> bht
>> >>
>> >> ahhh! muna rva imc
>> >> >
>> >> > I fully support US IMC resolving to be an all-volunteer collective.
>> >> > Richmond
>> >> > Indymedia did this as soon as Houston posted their statement.
>> >> >
>> >> > X,
>> >> > M.
>> >> >
>> >> > Quoting ana <ana at riseup.net>:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jan 13, 2005, at 8:23 PM, nick wrote
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > from a friend in NYC:
>> >> >> > "The Indypendent is currently paying an ad manager and
>> >> >> > an office manager. It should be clarified that this is
>> >> >> > an Indy only thing, and not the policy of the NYC-IMC
>> >> >> > as a whole."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> hey all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> a) clarification, i would say the paper gives someone a stipend to
>> >> fill
>> >> >> a role that is terribly described as office manager and we give a
>> cut
>> >> >> of ad revenue to anyone who goes out and finds ads.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> b) i doubt the nyc imc and the uc imc are the only ones in the
>> >> network
>> >> >> who do this sort of thing. i know seattle did it for a while. so
>> did
>> >> >> palestine and israel imcs. there are probably more i dont know
>> about.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> c) i personally support the idea of the us-imc remaining an
>> >> >> all-volunteer project.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> d) i agree we should avoid getting into this debate here. i know
>> some
>> >> >> people dont like the fact that some imcs do this. we have gone
>> >> through
>> >> >> this. the network will soon do a survey of some kind to see if
>> there
>> >> is
>> >> >> a consensus to making it "illegal".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> peace
>> >> >> ana
>> >> >>
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