[Imc] Death Threatz

[Mike Lehman]

John,
I covered some of this in detail in my reply to Josh's post. Otherwise,
I believe that the new Dada software has an option for rating stories. I
don't know whether the Tech group has decided to enable that or not.
Rating stories oftentimes can be particularly skewed, unless a large
enough number of people participate. Clearcut violations of our website
use policy would still have to be taken care of manually in many cases.
Mike Lehman

John Martirano wrote:
> 
> since the whole idea is for it to be community created, maybe
> community management would be a good idea...  people could vote
> a post into a "censored" category, which you could still view,
> but would come wiht a disclaimer that the content contained is
> considered to be obscene, etc... (a physically separate newswire)
> 
> an easier idea is to use this voting mechanism to merely
> place the offending post on a list that some newswire editor will
> later evaluate
> 
> to get further far out... ive done soem work with automatic
> text document clustering... it should be possible with enough
> examples (ie is this happening to every imc) to predict what
> is hatemail...
> 
> again this technology could be used to place possible offensive
> posts in a list to be later evaluated... or for that matter, just
> looking for some key words or keyword combos could be somewhat
> effective...
> 
> actually the list-to-be-evaluated could be an accessible category
> that has to be voted back into the newswire!  again community
> evaluation is key.
> 
> i realize these ideas are not short-term solutions... but
> neither is the existence of such attitudes.
> 
>         -john
> 
> Josh Michaels spoke:
> >
> > It seems that lately we've seen a lot of rather hateful and
> > obscene postings to the newswire. I find it interesting that
> > the tech group acts as the editor of the newswire, rather
> > than a group of editors focused on keeping the newswire clean
> > and credible. Has anyone ever considered creating a group
> > specifically to act as editors of the newswire? We shouldn't
> > have to wait until someone complains to take hate speech off
> > of the wire...
> >
> > -josh
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:17:38PM -0500, Paul Riismandel wrote:
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I have a hard time seeing anything being expressed except simpleton vitriol
> > > and hate.  There is no reason or rationale expressed, just hate.  So, I
> > > support it being hidden, since posts like this only create a hostile
> > > atmosophere where no remotely civil or reasonable debate or dialogue can
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > It's too bad that our website is being seen by some as an opportunity for
> > > simplistic expressions of ethnic hatred.
> > >
> > > --Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Lehman" <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "imc" <imc at lists.groogroo.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > Subject: [Imc] Death Threatz
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am going to hide this story:
> > > > <http://www.ucimc.org/front.php3?article_id=5859&group=webcast>
> > > >
> > > > While we attempt to balance between any actual expressive content in
> > > > such a post, the fact that it this post seems to be nothing but a
> > > > vehicle for the expressed threats against a group, in accordance with
> > > > UCIMC policy:
> > > >
> > > > Threats and Intimidation:-The IMC newswire is not intended to be a forum
> > > > for primarily publicizing hate nor for making direct threats against
> > > > individuals, groups or classes of people. The IMC recognizes that such
> > > > speech can be harmful in and of itself and may create at atmosphere in
> > > > which physical action becomes more likely. In any post under
> > > > consideration the threatening speech should be weighed against other
> > > > ideas or expression in the post. If the majority of the post nonetheless
> > > > is intended to contribute to discourse or debate, then the issue of
> > > > hiding it should be considered very carefully.
> > > >
> > > > You may read the entire UCIMC Website Use Policy at:
> > > > <http://www.ucimc.org/website_policy.php3>
> > > >
> > > > Discussion on Sunday, as needed.
> > > > Mike Lehman
> > > >
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