[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Organize!

Sun Jul 14 19:00:11 UTC 2013

This has to do with Occupy because it involves systemic inequality.

If the two individuals' races were reversed Zimmerman would not be where he
is today...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Chris Goodrow <c_goodrow at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> Do we know beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman didn't approach
> Trayvon with his gun out and Trayvon got the best of him? Seems Martin was
> found guilty of attempted murder but was unable to plea self defense as
> he's dead and the only witness that knows what happened is the one that
> shot him.
>
> I don't know that this has anything to do with Occupy other than it is a
> large list of people that are interested in justice. It's not as if people
> are using this event to further the Occupy movement.
>
> While I can't disagree with the verdict on a legal stance, I can still
> feel outraged at the lack of justice in this case from day one. The
> injustice that Zimmerman's word was just taken at face value that evening
> without a thorough investigation and then promptly let go without charges
> is very troubling. To think Trayvon would have been afforded the same
> luxuries had Zimmerman approached him with a gun and Martin ended killing
> him would suggest we live in a utopian justice system.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Rachel Storm" <rachelstrm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wayne. if you continue to fail to see any connections between racism and
> any other social movements, that is the result of your own lack of
> consciousness. I'll continue to be confused as to why you remain on these
> lists though your only contribution seems to consistently be to troll and
> derail any efforts to organize.
>
> My understanding is that you don't live here locally and that you've been
> living out of the country for years. In other words, in all of my
> experience you have been unable to actually attend any organizing that
> would even happen in this town. Why you remain on this list though your
> behavior has been anything but productive, cooperative, or any of the
> values that I would think would be most important to the health of the list
> is beyond my comprehension.
> **
> The Martin/Zimmerman incident is not like the
> Champaign Police shootings of young black men.
>
> Zimmerman may be an asshole or not.  I am not sure.
> Most but not all cops and wannabee cops are
> indeed quasi-assholes.  Not all.
>
> But clearly Zimmerman was attacked, and on that basis he
> has been set free, because of the self-defense argument.
> The cause of the dispute betwen Martin and Zimmerman
> becomes irrelevant when Zimmerman is attacked.
>
> It's not like Zimmerman just pulled out his gun and
> Oba-nam Style executed him because he was wearing a hoodie.
> The law permits people to have encounters and disagreement.
> When it erupts into physical violence particularly life-threatening
> violence, then a line is crossed.  The situation was
> examined very clearly.
>
> Justice my ass.
> It's not justice that they are crying for.
> It's blood.
> They want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
> They want blood for bloodshed.
>
> Well, actually what they want is Money.
>
> But since there isn't any money available,
> they'll settle for a few pints of blood,
> and several ounces of testicular flesh if that
> becomes available.
>
> It is really a disgusting distraction for a noble movement
> like Occupy! to get down and grub for cooties
> with the blood-lust crowd.
>
>
> On 07/14/13 22:02, Karen Aram wrote:
>
> Rachel
>
> After today's AWARE meeting at 5:00, I will be attending the protest,
> bringing a neighbor as well.
> Trayvon Marvin represents the many young black men from Emmet Till, Jimmie
> Lee Jackson, Robert Hall etc., etc. murdered because of their race,
> with the perpetrators so obviously being acquitted by unjust laws and or
> decisions.
>
> Karen Aram
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: rachelstrm at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:51:39 -0500
> To: sdas-current at googlegroups.com; sdas-list at googlegroups.com;
> occupyCU at lists.chambana.net; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net;
> peace at anti-war.net
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Organize!
>
>  Hey folks---If anyone has heard of another demo being planned, I'm happy
> to send notices out, cancel this one, and redirect people there. I've
> contacted a number of African-American led organizations in town and can't
> seem to tell if something is already in the works. Either way, I'm happy to
> help try and get the word out and then redirect if need be.
>
>  Okay, here's what I got to start.
> https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create
>
>  Please forward widely.
>
>  *No Justice, No Peace x Protest the Verdict
> *
> *Sunday, July 14th, 2013 | 6pm-8pm*
> *Douglass Park | 512 E. Grove St. Champaign*
> "George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot
> Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, igniting a national debate on
> racial profiling and civil rights, was found not guilty late Saturday night
> of second-degree murder." We will stand together in Champaign-Urbana to
> demand accountability, to stand against racial injustice, and to protest
> the verdict that proved the injustice of the system. We stand with
> Trayvon’s family and we know that we are called to act---to fight for civil
> rights and for the removal of Stand Your Ground laws in every state, and
> we will not rest until racial profiling in all its forms is outlawed. Today
> we mourn, but tomorrow we organize. #blacklivesmatter
>
> Bring your friends, your family, your children, your neighbors. We stand
> together as a community--all of us. Art, protest signs, candles, and
> messages of outrage/hope/love/solidarity are encouraged.
> *Share on Facebook: *
> https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Rachel Storm <rachelstrm at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>  I think we need an emergency demonstration tomorrow in response to the
> Zimmerman verdict to show that Urbana community members/activists/folks in
> solidarity do not stand for this outrageous demonstration of injustice.
>
>  Can we plan to meet somewhere very public tomorrow (Sunday) at 6pm-ish?
>
>  WHERE?
>
>  Rachel
>
>
>
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