[Peace-discuss] In defense of proper priorities and against virtue signalling: "foul language" is less important than fighting for Medicare for All and fighting against war

J.B. Nicholson jbn at forestfield.org
Sat Jan 2 23:01:50 UTC 2021


Jimmy Dore continues to hit the important points and say how other people's 
mealy-mouthed defense of establishment values are full of shit.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) recently claimed that when Dore objects to AOC and 
other Congresspeople by telling them to "fuck off" that such talk is "violence":

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1345193022179467268
> And to be 💯% honest, it was hard during this to be targeted+marred as some
> sellout-enemy of the people over a late tactical disagreement over 1 floor vote.
> 
> Also a bummer to see figures excuse comments like “f- her and f- anyone who
> protects her.” That’s not tone,that’s violence
No, those objections are not violence. They're right and proper objections to someone 
in power (known as 'punching up') who apparently refuses to use her power to help us 
in the midst of a deadly pandemic and depression. AOC will likely give her vote to 
Nancy "Mama Bear" Pelosi in exchange for nothing. She's spineless against power. She 
is another in a long line of fake tough people: she occasionally says something 
truthful in highly-paid speeches or on Twitter.com. But what she says stands out 
sharply given her own previous endorsement of Medicare for All and her complaint that 
the Democrats are a right or center-right party (noting that "we don't have a Left 
party in the United States") and complaining that the Democrats can't "can't even get 
a floor vote for Medicare for All". Furthering the hypocrisy, AOC defended Rep. 
Rashida Tlaib's calling Pres. Trump a "motherfucker" and Dore's got the establishment 
media report describing her defense (from the Washington Post, so there's no way 
establishment-friendly people can object without also impugning the credibility of 
that establishment-friendly outlet).

AOC's above post is not convincing the public, apparently and unsurprisingly. But 
these lame arguments are the only avenues left to try to justify being a huge 
hypocrite and not challenge Pelosi by saying no vote for Pelosi unless she promises 
to bring Rep. Pramila Jayapal's Medicare for All bill to the floor for a House vote. 
You'll be able to watch for AOC's pro-Pelosi vote tomorrow (2021-01-03).

Ro Khanna (who is also likely about to vote for Pelosi) at least shows more spine 
than AOC by continuing to show up on Jimmy Dore's show and take tough questions, even 
recognizing that Congresspeople are some of the most powerful people on Earth, if 
they can't take tough questions and political challenges they should "deal with it, 
get over it". See https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZeeGMeSUuo for more.

We've even seen some defense of this 'foul language'/impropriety argument on 
peace-discuss and it falls flat here too because it reveals awful priorities, reveals 
being out of touch with how real people talk, and generally doesn't acknowledge the 
reality of the world where the US is alone in its healthcare delivery mechanism 
(other people are defending their better healthcare payment schemes, payment and 
delivery schemes they fought for decades ago).

I'm watching Jimmy Dore's live show where he interviewed Ben Spielberg (co-founder of 
"34 Justice", which I'm not familiar with) and I'm reminded of how many people are 
easily cowed into submission by the establishment -- Spielberg required some pushing 
to object to AOC's aforementioned allegation that Dore's speech was violence because 
he wanted to carve out an exception to Dore's claim that allowed him to tell others 
he wasn't in full agreement with one of the establishment's current foes.

Spielberg defended the mealy-mouthed lines of elevating bruised egos, "harsh 
language", and (near quote) "finding better ways to talk to progressives" over 
life-and-death political issues such as Medicare for All. This told me that Spielberg 
is either angling for an establishment media contract or he's so poor at recognizing 
proper priorities that I can't trust his judgment.

It's only a matter of time until today's Jimmy Dore segments are split out from the 
live feed and uploaded to YouTube.

-J


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