[rfu-automation] Anything goes on the automated musical playlist?

Thu Jul 6 19:21:05 CDT 2006

The piece you're referring to, Gary, is undoubtedly "playset" by Dr.  
Bethany Cooper--my wife--which she composed as part of the  
requirements for completing her doctorate in music composition and  
theory.

Bethany's work is informed by the work of Kenneth Gaburo, who during  
his decades-long academic and non-academic career (some of which he  
spent here at the University of Illinois) invented a kind of music  
called "compositional linguistics" where spoken sounds were used as  
musical compositional elements. The "non-musical sound effects"  
you're describing were also heavily influenced by the work of  
prominent composers such as Kaija Saariaho, who is generally  
considered one of the most important avant-garde composers of the  
late 20th century and today.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:vx7ibkg9aakv~T00
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=41:5430~T00

It's great that we have unusual musicians like Bethany in the  
community. It behooves us to respect their creativity and not  
blacklist their work because we presume that most people won't like  
it. Local artists are part of the community we're trying to serve.

Just let local artists put their stuff on automation and don't sweat  
it. If some listener (including you or me) doesn't like it, who  
cares? They can subscribe to satellite radio, visit the iTunes music  
store, or listen to one of their favorite CD's. But RFU is the *only*  
outlet for some of these local artists, and that's what we should be.

--
Joe Futrelle
Person

On Jul 6, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Gary Cziko wrote:

> Joe et al.:
>
> I can go along with this, using only length to screen musical  
> contributions.
>
> The next question is do we want to limit the automated music  
> playlist to stuff that most would agree is music?
>
> This morning at 7:57 or so there was a track containing repeated  
> words (lots of "play") with weird effects. I don't this qualifies  
> as music, unless adding non-musical sound effects to spoken  
> language is considered music by some.
>
> But then again, perhaps we should open up the automation lists to  
> include spoken word artists, too. People recording their own poems  
> (may be copyright issues in recording others' poems)?
>
> --Gary
>
> On 7/5/06, Joe Futrelle <futrelle at shout.net> wrote:
> In the interest of serving the community, we should keep our musical
> preferences out of these kinds of decisions. If someone from the
> community contributes content, we should put it in the automation
> system, regardless of what we think of it, unless it's obscene or
> otherwise unplayable (e.g., a five-minute long track of silence, a
> commercial or political ad, libel, etc.).
>
> That said, we have an issue with long tracks in automation, since
> Zara shuffles tracks with no regard to how long they are, giving
> longer tracks more airplay over any given period of time. That argues
> for some kind of length limits--or coming up with a time-based
> shuffling algorithm we can use to generate playlists.
>
> --
> Joe Futrelle
> Person
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Gary Cziko wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> > From about 9:30 to 9:45 this morning WRFU broadcasted a solo
> > clarinet piece that, in my opinion, doesn't belong on the air, at
> > least not in its current form.
> >
> > It is very long, amateurish and  repetitive. I can't  imagine
> > anyone (other than perhaps the "artist" or his or her parents) not
> > being turned off after a few minutes of this and turning off WRFU.
> >
> > This raises an interesting question about what we want to keep on
> > the automation system. My musical taste and preferences certainly
> > shouldn't be the criterion. In fact, I'd like to have nothing to do
> > with deciding what merits a place in the automated music rotation
> > and what doesn't. But I think it is something we ought to discuss
> > at our meeting next Tuesday at 7 pm.
> >
> > --Gary
> >
> > P.S. I apologize if my musical critique of the track in question
> > has offended anyone who might read this, as this was not my intent.
> > Perhaps the artist is even on this mailing list. If that is the
> > case, keep practicing!
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