[rfu-membership] Membership Meeting Notes, Jan. 13, 2008

[Mike Lehman]

Hi Lavana,
Sound good to me. Let's finalize that at the next membership meeting and 
present it as policy at the next station meeting.
Mike Lehman

RANDALL R HAWKINS wrote:
> My first thought about where to send an announcement if a show will be 
> missed, was to send it to the station list.  It does seem like 
> everyone should be aware when a show is not going to air, and that 
> then someone can hopefully sub.  The automation does prevent dead air 
> -- but it is not the same as a live show.  But I have rethought this.
>  
> And here is what I am realizing.  Most people are just not available 
> or able or interested in hosting a show at another time slot during 
> the week.  Once is a lot to be ready for.  I don't think most people 
> are watching their e-mail waiting for another time slot to come open.  
> Most djs are just hitting delete when they see these announcements, 
> because it is a need they can't fill.  But, I also know that there was 
> at least one week, when we really would have liked to have done an 
> extra show, and even though there were several cancellations that 
> week, I could never figure out when they were, so we never filled a spot.
>  
> So here is my final suggestion, even though I understand the idea of 
> keeping everyone abreast of  when a show is not airing, I think it is 
> unnecessary to most djs.  There are a few who might find it helpful, 
> and they can subscribe to the membership list, if we make that the 
> place to post it.  Great, more people who are aware other membership 
> issues that appear on this list, and when the membership group meets.  
> Keep the station list lower traffic for those who are only able to do 
> their own show, and don't need to wade through all of it.  AND, when a 
> show posts that they will not be able to air, I would like to suggest 
> that they include the day and time that their show generally airs to 
> make it easier for someone to know that the studio is now open during 
> that time slot. I know that we doing good right now to get them to 
> post at all, but if we are beginning a habit, lets ask that they 
> supply the information that will be most useful.
>  
> Lavana
>  
>
> */Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>/* wrote:
>
>     Lavana,
>     You can access all the RFU list at this link:
>     http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo
>
>     Page down to the RFU lists. There are eight currently.
>
>     The RFU list is the original one and is now used for general
>     discussion.
>     The RFU-Automation, Finance, and Membership list are currently
>     somewhat
>     active and are connected, ideally, to the areas of responsibility for
>     each of those working groups. Tech is on there, too, but sees
>     little use
>     although it would be great if it did. RFU-Schedule was used a lot
>     in the
>     beginning to coordinate show proposals and scheduling, but this
>     work is
>     now done on Membership's list.
>
>     RFU-Station is for official station business only and is the one list
>     that every programming group is required to stay subscribed to so
>     that
>     they are aware of official announcements. People sometimes send or cc
>     mail there, but unless it is something that every programming group
>     needs to know about, I admin it out. Sometimes, if it is important to
>     another list, I'll manually resend it to the appropriate group. The
>     reason I don't think it's a good idea to send missed show to it is to
>     keep it low traffic and to encourage people to subscribe to one of
>     the
>     other lists.
>
>     IIRC, we did agree that every group should be subscribed to at
>     least the
>     list of a working group that they claimed to be a member of. This is
>     only partially in effect at this time, but would be a good idea to
>     verify and add them to the respective group list during the
>     retraining
>     effort that is coming up.
>
>     If there's anything I didn't cover you'd like to know about, just ask.
>     Mike Lehman
>
>     RANDALL R HAWKINS wrote:
>     > I really do not understand the system of e-mail lists at all. Where
>     > can I easily go to be reminded of what all the many lists are,
>     and the
>     > purpose of each?
>     > Lavana
>     >
>     >
>     > */Mike Lehman /* wrote:
>     >
>     > Noel,
>     > I'm OK either way about which list to send missed show notices to.
>     > The
>     > thing is that if everyone missing shows actually sent proper notice,
>     > it's going to overwhelm the general discussion list and there
>     will be
>     > even fewer people subscribed to it than currently. The most
>     important
>     > things is to send them consistently to one place.
>     >
>     > My idea about using the Membership list for the missed meeting
>     > notices
>     > is so that they are concentrated on the relevant list. With
>     > automation,
>     > there is no dead air. The problem is that unless we get this fixed,
>     > there will be NO air for anyone soon!
>     >
>     > As for any specific show missing a few times, I'm much more worried
>     > about the overall trend than individual performance. And I certainly
>     > don't want to fault Janice, as she is doing her best with the mess
>     > that
>     > the station membership as a whole is handing her. We should try to
>     > concentrate on getting a plan to fix the entire issue, rather than
>     > what
>     > any individual show is doing or not doing.
>     >
>     > I suspect that your 6 is due to sending a miss notice that covered
>     > multiple weeks over the break. But you should have gotten credit
>     > for at
>     > least one miss, so maybe we're not looking everywhere the messages
>     > were
>     > logged. We should remember that the best place to track these is
>     > at the
>     > list archives, either:
>     > http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/private/rfu/
>     > or
>     > http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/archive/rfu-membership/
>     >
>     > I do know that I delete any miss notices sent to RFU-station. That
>     > just
>     > is not a good list to use or we'll have trouble keeping people on
>     > it. I
>     > don't think it's a burden to ask those wanting to fill miss shows,
>     > either the gen discussion list or memmbership to look someplace
>     > special.
>     > Mike Lehman
>     >
>     > Noel L. Vivar wrote:
>     > > SNIP
>     > > 2) I actually think that absence notifications should go to the
>     > > general discussion list. This way, everyone knows that someone
>     > is not
>     > > coming in and can plan to substitute.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks. -Noel
>     >
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