[CUWiN] Re: CU-Wireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1

Wed Jan 9 22:48:56 CST 2008

>P.S.  So far, our local city leaders and school IT folks reject such 
>ideas out-of-hand.  They like not providing our kids with a 21st century 
>education.

Those city council members must be right. SSH is bad... I've been mistaken
all these years.

Why not advise them to continue to block SSH, but also to open port 22 for
added security?

If that doesn't work and they continue to ask what port 22 does, tell them
that's where all campaign contributions come in from.

-----Original Message-----
From: cu-wireless-bounces at lists.cuwireless.net
[mailto:cu-wireless-bounces at lists.cuwireless.net] On Behalf Of Tom Poe
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:43 PM
To: Tim Yardley
Cc: cu-wireless at lists.cuwireless.net; 'Barry Isralewitz'
Subject: Re: [CUWiN] Re: CU-Wireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1

Tim Yardley wrote:
>
> Barry;
>
>  
>
> Anything is possible.   For those that are even remotely crafty, the 
> limitations that are in place won't stop them anyway.  As for
> specifically allowing ssh, I'll poke around the agreement and see if 
> there is anything explicitly stated to stop it.  If not, I'll toss the 
> idea around and see if there are any objections.  It would make my 
> life easier as well.
>
>  
>
> No promises, but better than nothing right?  Keep in mind that in
> Pavlov doing this was a gift to the city, so as such it's meant to be 
> usable to the masses.  If the masses need ssh for common use, then 
> they should get that if it doesn't hamper the rest of the users.  
> Another one that is obviously on the list of niceties would be to 
> allow SIP.  Since the requirements of that can be a little more 
> intensive, that is a little harder sell.
>
>  
>
> Again though, anything is possible.
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>
> /tmy
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>  
>
> *From:* cu-wireless-bounces at lists.cuwireless.net
> [mailto:cu-wireless-bounces at lists.cuwireless.net] *On Behalf Of *Barry 
> Isralewitz
> *Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2007 12:41 PM
> *To:* cu-wireless at lists.cuwireless.net
> *Subject:* [CUWiN] Re: CU-Wireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
>     Message: 2
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>     Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:35:35 -0500
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>     From: David Young <dyoung at pobox.com <mailto:dyoung at pobox.com>>
>
>     Subject: Re: [CUWiN] Champaign's "free" wireless.
>
>      
>
> [snip]
>
> SSH does not even work
>
>            
>
>             Wow, really?  In a tech-dependent town like this one?
>
>             Can Go Networks/Pavlov be convinced by the City to turn
> SSH on?  Something like
>
>             1. Convince City of Champaign that
>
>                         a) Alpha-geeks are far happier with SSH.
>  Champaign wants these people happy, whether residents or 
> visitors: from their ranks come new tax-paying local tech businesses 
> and local-economy-vital UIUC world-tech-leader status.  They wouldn't 
> for example, want a visiting  entrepreneurially-bent academic, 
> contemplating a UIUC  job,  to turn on her laptop in downtown 
> Champaign, attempt to check a running process back home,  then shout 
> "idiotic Champaign wireless!   I knew this small town would suck, 
> I'm definitely taking that position at Berkeley."
>
>                         b) SSH is how users will communicate with the
> computers we are famous for, like, say, the coming $200M Fastest 
> Computer in The Freaking World.
>
>                         c) Blocking SSH doesn't prevent bad behavior;
> similarly abusive/bandwdith-abusive behavior can happen over http.
>
>             2. Convinced by such  arguments, and motivated soley by
>  forward-thinking tax greed, Champaign tells Go Networks / Pavolv 
> "unblock SSH".
>
>  
>
>  
>
>                                                 Cheers,
>
>                                                 Barry
>
> --
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> Barry Isralewitz   Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group, UIUC 
>
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>
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Seems like wireless infrastructure mostly about kids being able to 
access their school networks for a truly 21st century education.  Ssh 
connection to school network from downtown field trips, follow-up 
assignments for school, etc., is an everyday occurrance.  I'd check with 
the schools, and see if they're employing ssh for their kids.  If not, 
is it something they'd do if it was a benefit for expanding school 
curriculum using technology available through the wireless 
infrastructure.  Just a thought.
Tom Poe, Charles City, Iowa
P.S.  So far, our local city leaders and school IT folks reject such 
ideas out-of-hand.  They like not providing our kids with a 21st century 
education. 
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