[Imc-makerspace] Fwd: I'm an RSO Agent -- Yippee!

Isak Griffiths isak at ucimc.org
Sun Apr 10 13:05:03 CDT 2011 

Makerspace,

Mike can help us get the $250 through the RSO.

As an RSO agent, if he can sign the paperwork, great. If not, he'll
help with ensuing we get the cooperation we need.

It's just up to us to manage the necessary paperwork and get it to the
right people in the right order for the right signatures. Will that
work?

Isak


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:29:11 -0500
Subject: Re: I'm an RSO Agent -- Yippee!
To: isak at ucimc.org

Yeah, the excuse was bogus. And things need to be resolved
appropriately. In cases like these, it's best to facilitate things by
not upsetting people any more than necessary -- including those who we
have a right to be upset about. You're right to be PO-ed about it, but
the way this RSO thing works, we also need their cooperation to avoid
making an even bigger mess to clean up.

Otherwise, we are looking at doing the alternate RSO thing. I really
want to avoid that if at all possible. I've never been a fan of
propagating splits. Even when it's justified somehow, it causes more
pain than gain and can be a tremendous drag on the pieces that are
around to pick up after it's over.

I only raised that because it is the ultimate solution to the problem,
if we must. However, like nuclear weapons, you want to never consider
that sort of thing unless you're presented with no other choice and your
back is against the wall. For all the pain so far, we're not close to
there yet and I want to do everything in our power to avoid that.

As for financial requests re SORF funds, do the people who need it have
access to the forms and regs? Or is that behind the officer wall on
CollegiateLink? If so, I can certainly put my name to some things and
request that he sign off on them. But realistically we can't do that
until after making a request from INSIDE the RSO to do so.

Let's get what your folks need down on paper/text to the extent you can,
then let's push the paper to him for signature. He won't tell me no, but
we also need to have a meeting, formulate a plan, show support for it
and get whatever comes out of it to Ray for signature. Like I told
everyone, I just can't take time to do that right now, but if someone
organizes and announces it, then I will show up at it and make sure that
we get some process going. Ray, et al invited, of course.
Mike

On 4/8/2011 10:28 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
> There are two parts to that....
>
> 1. MakerSpace would very much like the $250 to help fund MakerFaire.
> If he's the treasurer, I'm guessing that is still his responsibility.
> Him working with them being too complicated is no reason; and I would
> bet not really that complicated. They never asked for an advance; I
> don't know where he got that. They need the RSO to receive the funds,
> and *then* get the money to MakerSpace.
>
> 2. I personally don't think working with the IMC for a smooth
> transition shouldn't suggest he and Emmanuel are at all off the hook.
> Just because you can help with some things doesn't mean they can just
> vanish or be unresponsive or be uncooperative. They need to help with
> a smooth transition, sooner than later.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Isak
>
> On 4/8/11, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>> Both, if I can.
>>
>> BTW, if we're sure that we got what we need, maybe I should send Ray a
>> note to let him know not to worry about it...not that he was, maybe, but
>> you know?
>>
>> Let me know, don't want to let him off the hook too easily. And it would
>> be a good time to propose an RSO working group proposal....
>> Mike
>>
>> On 4/8/2011 7:52 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>> Otherwise, we'll make the one we have work.... do you mean the RSO or
>>> the imperfect world?  --isak
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net
>>> <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>      No problem. This is really my F-up. Let's just make sure the
>>>      RSO-interested meet. What this clearly shows is that we need a
>>>      place, just like everything else that matters at the IMC, where
>>>      this stuff happens. It was one thing when it only mattered to a
>>>      few very interested but busy people, but there's too much
>>>      important stuff that will fall through the cracks otherwise.
>>>
>>>      There's never been the critical mass needed to actually get a
>>>      working group going for this, but that is precisely what's needed
>>>      -- in a perfect world.
>>>
>>>      Otherwise, we'll make the one we have work.
>>>      Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>      On 4/8/2011 6:25 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>      Thank you Mike, I will follow up with this next week if no
>>>>      movement is happening on getting somethings set up.
>>>>
>>>>      Isak
>>>>
>>>>      On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Mike Lehman
>>>>      <rebelmike at earthlink.net<mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          Why didn't I think of this first?
>>>>
>>>>          Dissertation brain, I guess.
>>>>
>>>>          Just a warning...don't wait too long to be a grad student, or
>>>>          you'll be getting dumber, like me, rather than smarter.
>>>>
>>>>          I am still listed as an authorized agent. Anyway, I can sign
>>>>          the paperwork if that's all that's needed.
>>>>
>>>>          If that's needed before Monday, let me know and we'll arrange
>>>>          it. Otherwise, let me know what works for everyone in getting
>>>>          me the paperwork so it can be handed in on-time.
>>>>
>>>>          Here's who is listed as RSO officers/members on Collegiate Link:
>>>>          Emmanuel Camacho, Pres.
>>>>          Ray Morales, Treasurer
>>>>          Harrini Krishnan, Authorized Agent
>>>>          Mike Lehman, Authorized Agent
>>>>          Matthew Sharrock, Authorized Agent
>>>>
>>>>          I suggest getting what we need signed now. I really can't
>>>>          take on any additional work. However, be glad to help and advise.
>>>>
>>>>          My first bit of advice is that a date be set for a meeting to
>>>>          choose officers for 2011-2012. It matters more that it's
>>>>          convenient for you and other students. Once you feel a good
>>>>          date is set and place reserved (could be at the IMC, but
>>>>          since I can sign, we could get a room on campus -- whatever
>>>>          you thinks best) then I will send an announcement email to
>>>>          the current officers and authorized agents, plus y'all and
>>>>          anyone else that we have emails to meet to choose officers
>>>>          for next year and any outstanding issues of interest to RSO
>>>>          members.
>>>>
>>>>          I think that will work for now and get us started to better
>>>>          integration of the RSO so that we can continue to offer
>>>>          students the benefits of the RSO.
>>>>
>>>>          If there is something I missed (way too much going on) let me
>>>>          know.
>>>>
>>>>          And let me know when and where to sign paperwork.
>>>>          Mike Lehman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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