[Imc-production] Re: [UCIMC-Tech] production room cleanup > Re: RFU Public Files

Tommy Griscom rgriscom at gmail.com
Mon Apr 21 15:06:45 CDT 2008 

Why should we give access to the production room to people outside of the
production group without explicit permission from someone within the group?
If the room is the production group's room, and it contains the production
group's equipment, then it should be managed by the production group, and
any other access to it should be approved by the production group. There
should not be anything in that room that is from another group, because it
doesn't belong there. That's why the WRFU stuff needs to go elsewhere. It is
strictly NOT WRFU space. I don't mean to be harsh, but this is the reality
of the situation.

-t


On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:25 AM, dan blah <blah at chambana.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > Chris,
> >  They way the RFU access to the Production room has been dealt with so
> far
> > is by maintaining the lock with an alternative code that is the same as
> the
> > code to the RFU studio door.
> >
> This is an issue for a completely separate group and has been in the
> past.  When shows equipment was in that room things walked away due to
> the number of people that had access to the combo.  Simply moving
> shows equipment (mics, cables, etc.) into the main space in a cabinet
> with a lock resolved the problem.  IMO giving *all* RFU members access
> to a groups resources is no different than giving the studio combo
> away to the production group w/o getting trained by RFU.
>
> >  An issue with locking the public file cabinet is that keys get lost or
> > misplaced. It would be better to have a combination lock. However, we've
> not
> > seen a need for locking when it was in the Production room. If it gets
> moved
> > out of there, it would definitely need to be locked.
> >
> There is plenty of room in the studio for the filing cabinet and
> automation computer if we remove the table and shelves behind the door
> that do nothing but collect random junk.  The only reason we didn't
> put the automation computer in the studio in the past was because
> there was concern it wouldn't be accessible when people were doing a
> show.  This is no longer an issue with remote access enabled.
>
> The only other issue is the printer.  I agree this should not be in
> the studio do to noise but I see no reason why this can't be in the
> cubby between the main entrance and the production room.  I already
> have the holes drilled leaving only some quick cleaning to do.
>
> >  As for training on security, it would be a big project to get everyone
> at
> > RFU through it. RFU has a goal of doing a mandatory mass retraining for
> all
> > DJs later on this year, so it could be incorporated into that as the
> most
> > viable option to provide that.
> >  Mike Lehman
> >
> We, as in RFU and steering, some time ago decided it was best to have
> separate group for production that managed itself and is of course
> open to all IMC (and of course therefore RFU) members.  Without this
> clear line in the past it was impossible to keep things in that room
> due to questions of which group is managing what.  At one point it was
> generally assumed by the RFU membership that everything in the
> production room was RFU's... including Rosa and Shows microphones and
> cables to be used for making PSA's and other audio.  I think I even
> helped this idea come around before I realized otherwise.
>
> Of course the production room will be accessible by all IMC groups and
> members but I don't think it's fair to allow groups like RFU and Shows
> to lock all of their expensive equipment away unless you are trained
> and known without giving the same to the Production group which
> currently manages the nicest workstations in the building.  The
> solutions seem simple enough to me knowing that the stated need for
> having RFU equipment in the production room is mostly set on old no
> longer applicable precedent that has been fought over to much in the
> past.
> >
> >
> >  Chris Ritzo wrote:
> >
> > > Great point Mike. Since access to the room requires being on the
> > production list, perhaps as the room begins to see more use we should
> talk
> > about an additional requirement so that everyone who has access goes
> through
> > a basic training on the security requirements of the room itself and its
> > contents. Is the file cabinet lockable?  If this were the case, RFU
> could
> > maintain additional security over the files so other groups who don't
> need
> > access to them wouldn't have a key.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ---- Original message ----
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:12:18 -0500
> > > > From: Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>  Subject: Re:
> > [Imc-production] Re: [UCIMC-Tech] production room cleanup > Re: RFU
> Public
> > Files  To: Josh King <josh at ucimc.org>
> > > > Cc: Chris Ritzo <critz1 at uiuc.edu>, Tommy Griscom <rgriscom at gmail.com
> >,
> > imc-tech at lists.ucimc.org, Andrew Ó Baoill <andrew at funferal.org>,
> > imc-production at lists.chambana.net
> > > >
> > > > On the subject of the RFU public files in the file cabinets in the
> > vault, it's more than just security that is needed. These files also
> need to
> > be readily accessible. In case of a FCC inspection, or even just a
> request
> > from a member of the public, the files need to be accessed so that the
> DJ on
> > air can present them for review.
> > > >
> > > > Since we also need to maintain a secure area for the files so they
> can't
> > be tampered with, keeping them in the production room is the best way to
> > make them securely accessible. Other suggestions on what to do with them
> are
> > welcome, but needs to have the same goal of making them securely
> accessible.
> > > > Mike Lehman
> > > >
> > > > Josh King wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Chris Ritzo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew,
> > > > > > As a member of the tech group, I had initially volunteered to
> work
> > on
> > > > > > the production workstation and the cleanup is kind of related to
> > that. Shows and WRFU along with other groups are all interested in using
> the
> > > > > > space too. We obviously want to involve these groups to make
> > appropriate
> > > > > > decisions.  The first thing on my mind is to see what's there,
> what
> > > > > > needs to be moved, etc,  and then see what it will take to get
> the
> > space
> > > > > > where we want it to be. It might be that we don't need to move
> the
> > > > > > filing cabinet, but I don't know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also am not sure if any of this requires further approval from
> the
> > > > > > production group or steering for that matter.  But there's a
> real
> > > > > > need/desire from several groups, so it seems we should start
> moving
> > > > > > forward.  If anyone else has an idea about this, please chime
> in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need to meet, as you said and talk about how to proceed.  If
> you
> > can
> > > > > > make it to the IMC-Tech meeting this Tuesday at 6pm in the main
> > space, I
> > > > > > think this might be a good forum to start figuring it out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew Ó Baoill wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tommy/Chris,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not sure how much time I can give to the issue, but I'm
> > interested
> > > > > > > in some involvement with the production room work, in part
> because
> > of
> > > > > > > the interactions with WRFU operations (and because improved
> audio
> > > > > > > editing facilities are in the interest of WRFU).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At our meeting yesterday we discussed the proposal to move the
> > WRFU
> > > > > > > printer, automation computer and filing cabinet. We think we
> may
> > have
> > > > > > > some ideas/solutions for the first two - though subject to
> some
> > > > > > > constraints on placement. The filing cabinet may be an issue,
> > because
> > > > > > > our studio has been built to be ADA compliant, and it may be
> > difficult
> > > > > > > to find a space for the filing cabinet within the studio, but
> we
> > may
> > > > > > > be able to come up with some solutions, given some time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Is this one of the filing cabinets in the vault now? I think the
> > primary
> > > > > concern is security, as many groups would potentially use the
> > production
> > > > > room space but should not be given access to WRFU resources,
> > > > > particularly the automation computer. I think that the tech
> meeting is
> > > > > definitely a good place to discuss this as Chris said, and I hope
> you
> > > > > can make it on Tuesday.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It might be most helpful if I could meet you, and/or others
> > involved
> > > > > > > with the production room project, at the IMC to discuss these
> (and
> > > > > > > other) aspects of the project. What sort of times might suit
> you
> > for
> > > > > > > this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew Ó Baoill
> > > > > > > Station Manager
> > > > > > > WRFU-LP, Urbana 104.5FM
> > > > > > > http://www.wrfu.net andrew at funferal.org
> > > > > > > admin/voicemail: (217) 278 3933  x25
> > > > > > > (217) 344-2536 (studio)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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-t
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