[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] the Dell printer
Mike Lehman
rebelmike at earthlink.net
Fri Apr 15 14:22:00 CDT 2011
Leon,
The answer is that yes, Tech is its own entity. That's the meaning of
autonomy. Tech sets its policies based on the resources available to it,
the time available and the priorities it needs to set to accomplish the
mission-critical parts of its work.
True, we need to be better about communicating this to each other. Brian
probably should've noted that the old CRT monitor (I think that's what
we're talking about, right?) should go to the recycling pile. Not a big
deal, so we shouldn't make a big deal of it. I think we have an
understanding of the concerns now and have a proposed solution.
Recycling is one more thing that Tech shouldn't be burdened with. Agreed
that an opportunity was missed to come up with a solution, but we have
it now.
If we need an example to understand, here's one. We all know about the
endless stream of requests Finance gets. A lot of this ends up being
someone supposing Finance should do things we don't. For instance,
fundraising or knowing info the working group knows but doesn't bother
communicating to Finance. Finance doesn't do fundraising, per se, but
does support fundraising.
Finance also can't read the minds of people. People wonder why we don't
have what they think we should, like complete record of donations and
transactions. We have the funds and can account for them to the best of
our ability, but we often don't have the other info UNLESS working
groups take the necessary action of following their funds and
transactions regularly and crosschecking the monthly reports. Heck, it
goes on for years and then people wonder why Finance doesn't have every
cent broken down the way they want it when they finally get around to
checking on this?
Like everything else at the IMC, Finance and Tech rely on a cooperative
effort with other elements of the IMC and with each other to make things
work. If that cooperation and coordination doesn't happen we can't
really force people to do what someone believes they should have done
first, although we usually figure it out.
Please everyone, be patient with each other and don't assume what the
other is supposed to be doing is what you think they should be doing.
Talk with each other and we'll figure this out.
Mike Lehman
On 4/15/2011 12:19 PM, leon mcgee wrote:
> Sorry I was just following what someone told me to do. And I did. I
> told Brian where they came from and he said nothing. So what am I
> suppose to do? And I am confused, are you with the IMC or your own
> entity? Is it working groups and IMC or is it the working groups are
> the IMC? Meaning if working groups are there own entity, then they
> should be treated like that.
>
>
> Never the less this to me is the most out of ordered place. I don't
> understand. If the IMC (like most building should), has its own tech
> crew from the beginning then why is there a problem? And if working
> groups ie tech is not technically IMC tech support then we need to
> hire are own. Cause when something needs fixing, sometimes wait for
> tech is not OK.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Chris Ritzo <chris.ritzo at gmail.com
> <mailto:chris.ritzo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Mike:
> My mistake about saying "finance"- I agree that this was
> confusing. Brian noticed that the monitor had been replaced, which
> isn't the same thing.
>
> Leon:
> I agree, it was placed by "Tech" and is IMC property. That doesn't
> mean you can just move it somewhere without asking first, and/or
> communicating about it.
>
> A more general inter-group solution is ideal. There will always be
> stuff that breaks and need to be recycled or trashed.
>
> Tech donations have always been a staple of the IMC- using stuff
> that's free or fixing what's broken. Tech just doesn't have the
> capacity to do this for every working group anymore. We will still
> maintain what we've put in place- the public computer lab &
> machines people use. But groups should really start thinking about
> building technology costs into grant proposals and budgets.
>
> If there are any tech donations that people want to make, please
> direct them to me or to Brian before accepting anything. I realize
> that sometimes people just "drop stuff off", and we can't stop
> that. Honestly, I think we have an established donation pipeline
> from Parkland, so we really don't need to accept any tech
> donations right now, outside of special needs- for instance - a
> brand new, network laser printer might be nice..
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Lehman
> <rebelmike at earthlink.net <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> Chris,
> I agree, absolutely not a Tech responsibility, but it is a
> general IMC need.
>
> A spot for IMC electronics recycling is a great idea. I
> hesitate to use Room 26, because it will tend to fill before
> something's done about it.
> BT,DT :-)
>
> Maybe it would be best to hold this sort of stuff in either
> the boiler room or the janitor room, as we already hold bulbs
> for recycling there? That way it won't be totally out of
> sight, out of mine and will remind us that it needs to go when
> a critical mass is reached and an event is upcoming.
>
> Leon,
> I know this stuff will sort of be in the way once there's very
> much accumulated, but that's the point -- to remind us it
> needs to leave then. Does this sound like it can work? Maybe
> stack it under the duct area at the north end of the janitor room?
>
> Then the designated spot for electronic recycling could be by
> the door to the janitor room, which would also be less in the
> way in the hall that at Room 26. And since you're in there
> almost daily, it could be moved into the janitor room spot to
> await the next recycling run.
> Mike
>
>
> On 4/15/2011 10:17 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>> Tech is not interested in the printer. Also, Brian informed
>> me that Finance replaced the program director's monitor and
>> that the old CRT was taken to the Makerspace without
>> informing us. I've asked Brian to bring it back upstairs.
>>
>> Tech will help other groups find appropriate means of
>> recycling non-functioning, or upgraded equipment. A prime
>> example is when Jay Schubert & I hauled all the old crap out
>> of room 26 when there was a recycling event on campus.
>>
>> What we won't do is be every group's storage dumping ground
>> for equipment you feel isn't working or needs replaced.
>> Taking the monitor to Makerspace without telling anyone is a
>> good example of this. This type of thing can easily take over
>> Tech's time. Time we could be spending working on the really
>> awesome stuff that is getting mentioned by our board members
>> at a national level. We are not the IMC's electronics recycler.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that the finance sub-group which deals
>> with building space issues designate a place for
>> non-functioning computer equipment that needs to be recycled
>> by all working groups and issue communications about that so
>> that folks know what to do with it. Maybe that's room 26.
>> When a recycling opportunity presents itself, tech will pitch
>> in to help, but it should probably be coordinated with the
>> building manager.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mike Lehman
>> <rebelmike at earthlink.net <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I kind of think it's just good for a boat anchor -- and
>> the IMC doesn't own a boat, yet.
>>
>> I'm cc-ing this to Tech in case they have an interest in
>> it (or Makerspace maybe?) for parts. etc.
>>
>> Otherwise, recycle it once Tech has had a chance to weigh in.
>> Mike
>>
>> On 4/15/2011 9:53 AM, leon mcgee wrote:
>>> Kristina had brought this up to me, and I was wondering
>>> the same thing, that if the dell printer is no longer
>>> staying with us, do we recycle it, give to tech to use
>>> for parts, have it star in Office Space 2 Revenge of The
>>> Printer?
>>> --
>>> Building Coordinator
>>> Leon McGee
>>> 202 S Broadway
>>> Urbana, IL 61801
>>> Leonmcgeeamericorps at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:Leonmcgeeamericorps at gmail.com>
>>
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