[UCIMC-Tech] point MX records to Google mail servers?

Josh King jking at chambana.net
Tue Sep 10 17:28:03 UTC 2013


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Hi Barry,

That was my bad, when I corrected the records I didn't notice they
were missing the FQDN dot as well. It should be corrected now.

On 09/10/2013 12:32 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> Hi Josh, Hi Chris,
> 
> 
> Thanks for working on this! We're almost there; the addresses I
> asked or are now in the MX records, but they all have
> "thebikeproject.org" tacked on to the end (see nslookup below).
> Maybe the problem is: in  the BIND zone file, the Google mail
> server addresses each need a trailing dot (".") at the end, for
> example aspmx.l.google.com --> aspmx.l.google.com.
> 
> ...to keep the local domain from being appended, so the current
> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org changes to -->
> aspmx.l.google.com in the MX records.
> 
> Here's nslookup output.. ============================== ===>
> nslookup
>> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
> Server:		130.126.2.131 Address:	130.126.2.131#53
> 
> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger = 5
> alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org	mail
> exchanger = 5 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. 
> thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger = 1
> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org	mail
> exchanger = 10 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org. 
> thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger = 10
> aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org.
> 
> Authoritative answers can be found from: thebikeproject.org
> nameserver = ns2.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org	nameserver =
> ns.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org	nameserver = ns3.chambana.net. 
> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org	internet address =
> 209.66.96.72 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org	internet
> address = 209.66.96.72 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org
> internet address = 209.66.96.72 
> aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org	internet address =
> 209.66.96.72 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org	internet
> address = 209.66.96.72 ns.chambana.net	internet address =
> 64.89.16.20 ns2.chambana.net	internet address = 192.80.111.168 
> ns3.chambana.net	internet address = 209.66.96.66 
> ==============================
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Barry 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Josh King wrote:
> 
>> Hi Barry,
>> 
>> There was a typo in the records as entered. The zone should be
>> replying with the correct information now.
>> 
>> On Sat 07 Sep 2013 05:24:00 AM EDT, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>> Hello Chris,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for working on this, but it looks like MX records
>>> haven't changed, that they are still "10
>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.". Here's some nslookup results, which
>>> seem to show that ns.chambana.net is providing the old records
>>> ("10 mail.thebikeproject.org.") and an SOA query which shows
>>> that ns.chambana.net is the right place to ask for
>>> thebikeproject.org .
>>> 
>>> ================= ===> nslookup
>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server:		75.75.75.75 Address:	75.75.75.75#53
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer: Name:	thebikeproject.org Address:
>>> 209.66.96.72
>>>> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server:		75.75.75.75 Address:	75.75.75.75#53
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger =
>>> 10 mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>> 
>>> Authoritative answers can be found from:
>>>> server ns.chambana.net
>>> Default server: ns.chambana.net Address: 64.89.16.20#53
>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server:		ns.chambana.net Address:	64.89.16.20#53
>>> 
>>> thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger = 10
>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>>> server ns2.chambana.net.
>>> Default server: ns2.chambana.net. Address: 192.80.111.168#53
>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server:		ns2.chambana.net. Address:	192.80.111.168#53
>>> 
>>> thebikeproject.org	mail exchanger = 10
>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>> 
>>> ===========
>>> 
>>> If I query Start of Authority (soa) I am seeing, as expected,
>>> 'origin' as 'ns.chambana.net'.  Refresh is 300 seconds, so no
>>> worries there either: =========== nslookup
>>>> set q=soa thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server:		75.75.75.75 Address:	75.75.75.75#53
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org origin =
>>> ns.chambana.net mail addr = hostmaster.chambana.net serial =
>>> 2013012600 refresh = 300 retry = 300 expire = 2419200 minimum =
>>> 300
>>> 
>>> Authoritative answers can be found from: ===========
>>> 
>>> Let me know what you think...
>>> 
>>>  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Barry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:51 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:10 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just to clarify on the below: I don't think I have the
>>>>>>> admin access to do this myself for thebikeproject.org
>>>>>>> <http://thebikeproject.org>  (for example, I don't have
>>>>>>> login access to ns.chambana.net 
>>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net>). Could someone with admin
>>>>>>> permissions edit the DNS zone file records for for me?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd like to point the MX records for
>>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> to
>>>>>>>> Google's mail servers (then will use a feature of
>>>>>>>> Google Apps for Non-profits). I think we'd need to
>>>>>>>> change the records on the chambana.net 
>>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, not at my registrar
>>>>>>>> 1and1, since my registrar's only involvement is to
>>>>>>>> point  to chambana nameservers (ns.chambana.net
>>>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net/> and ns2.chambana.net 
>>>>>>>> <http://ns2.chambana.net/>).  As far as I know,
>>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> is
>>>>>>>> currently not using mail at all on chambana.net
>>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, so no active service 
>>>>>>>> would be endangered. I'm pretty sure our chambana
>>>>>>>> mailing lists (bikecoop, bikecoop-staff,
>>>>>>>> bikecoop-announce) would not be affected at all --
>>>>>>>> but I don't know enough Mailman mailing list
>>>>>>>> internals to be 100% positive; let me know if you
>>>>>>>> think otherwise.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The MX values I'd like are at "MX Record Values,
>>>>>>>> Google Apps Documentation" 
>>>>>>>> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=174125
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
…except with TTL set to 86400, so:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Name/Host/Alias	Time to Live (TTL)	Record Type
>>>>>>>> Value/Answer/Destination Blank or @	86400	MX	1
>>>>>>>> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> Blank
>>>>>>>> or @	86400	MX	5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @
>>>>>>>> 86400	MX	5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @	86400
>>>>>>>> MX	10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM 
>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/> Blank or @	86400	MX
>>>>>>>> 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM 
>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Essential, says Google,  that ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM 
>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> gets top priority.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I may be  a little rusty here, let  me know if
>>>>>>>> something is obviously wrong…
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers, Barry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
>>>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
>>>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 
>>>>>>>> email: barryi at ks.uiuc.edu
>>>>>>>> <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
>>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
>>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
>>>>>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu> 
>>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>>>> IMC-Tech mailing list IMC-Tech at lists.chambana.net 
>>>>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/imc-tech
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Barry, I can take a look at making these changes. I do
>>>>>> think there is potential for issues with lists, though
>>>>>> I'm not sure. Since we aren't hosting email accounts for
>>>>>> TBP (that I know about), I think it should be fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> , you can also send mail now to support at tech.chambana.net
>>>>>> to have these requests logged in our redmine ticket
>>>>>> queue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll get back to you after I've had a chance to enact
>>>>>> these changes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Barry, These changes have now been made to TBP's DNS record
>>>>> on chambana.net. It may take a little bit for the change to
>>>>> propogate to all three of chambana.net's DNS servers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let us know if you need additional changes made.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best, Chris R.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much for making the changes, and for the quick
>>>> response! I would normally know within a day or so if the
>>>> changes work as hoped/intended, but with technology-free Rosh
>>>> Hashanah coming Wed. night, I won't be able to check on this
>>>> until Sunday.  Should be able to let you know outcome, and
>>>> ask after any other changes, then.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Barry
>>>> 
>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational Biophysics
>>>> Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois at
>>>> Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
>>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu   http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
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