[UCIMC-Tech] point MX records to Google mail servers?
Barry Isralewitz
barryi at ks.uiuc.edu
Tue Sep 10 18:52:11 UTC 2013
Hi,
That did it! Plus, propagated to Google servers very quickly. I was worried a few minutes ago afraid that the TTL of 86400 that I requested -- which I now realize was overly long for testing phase-- would slow things down, with a 24-hour wait for some cache to clear, but fortunately did not. Test mails to some accounts I've set up (contact at thebikeproject.org, info at thebikeproject.org, etc.) have gone through fine.
Thanks, Josh and Chris!
Cheers,
Barry
On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Josh King wrote:
> Hi Barry,
>
> That was my bad, when I corrected the records I didn't notice they
> were missing the FQDN dot as well. It should be corrected now.
>
> On 09/10/2013 12:32 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> > Hi Josh, Hi Chris,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for working on this! We're almost there; the addresses I
> > asked or are now in the MX records, but they all have
> > "thebikeproject.org" tacked on to the end (see nslookup below).
> > Maybe the problem is: in the BIND zone file, the Google mail
> > server addresses each need a trailing dot (".") at the end, for
> > example aspmx.l.google.com --> aspmx.l.google.com.
> >
> > ...to keep the local domain from being appended, so the current
> > aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org changes to -->
> > aspmx.l.google.com in the MX records.
> >
> > Here's nslookup output.. ============================== ===>
> > nslookup
> >> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
> > Server: 130.126.2.131 Address: 130.126.2.131#53
> >
> > Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 5
> > alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org mail
> > exchanger = 5 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org.
> > thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 1
> > aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org mail
> > exchanger = 10 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org.
> > thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
> > aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org.
> >
> > Authoritative answers can be found from: thebikeproject.org
> > nameserver = ns2.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org nameserver =
> > ns.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org nameserver = ns3.chambana.net.
> > aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org internet address =
> > 209.66.96.72 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org internet
> > address = 209.66.96.72 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org
> > internet address = 209.66.96.72
> > aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org internet address =
> > 209.66.96.72 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org internet
> > address = 209.66.96.72 ns.chambana.net internet address =
> > 64.89.16.20 ns2.chambana.net internet address = 192.80.111.168
> > ns3.chambana.net internet address = 209.66.96.66
> > ==============================
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Josh King wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Barry,
> >>
> >> There was a typo in the records as entered. The zone should be
> >> replying with the correct information now.
> >>
> >> On Sat 07 Sep 2013 05:24:00 AM EDT, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> >>> Hello Chris,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for working on this, but it looks like MX records
> >>> haven't changed, that they are still "10
> >>> mail.thebikeproject.org.". Here's some nslookup results, which
> >>> seem to show that ns.chambana.net is providing the old records
> >>> ("10 mail.thebikeproject.org.") and an SOA query which shows
> >>> that ns.chambana.net is the right place to ask for
> >>> thebikeproject.org .
> >>>
> >>> ================= ===> nslookup
> >>>> thebikeproject.org.
> >>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
> >>>
> >>> Non-authoritative answer: Name: thebikeproject.org Address:
> >>> 209.66.96.72
> >>>> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
> >>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
> >>>
> >>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org mail exchanger =
> >>> 10 mail.thebikeproject.org.
> >>>
> >>> Authoritative answers can be found from:
> >>>> server ns.chambana.net
> >>> Default server: ns.chambana.net Address: 64.89.16.20#53
> >>>> thebikeproject.org.
> >>> Server: ns.chambana.net Address: 64.89.16.20#53
> >>>
> >>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
> >>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
> >>>> server ns2.chambana.net.
> >>> Default server: ns2.chambana.net. Address: 192.80.111.168#53
> >>>> thebikeproject.org.
> >>> Server: ns2.chambana.net. Address: 192.80.111.168#53
> >>>
> >>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
> >>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
> >>>
> >>> ===========
> >>>
> >>> If I query Start of Authority (soa) I am seeing, as expected,
> >>> 'origin' as 'ns.chambana.net'. Refresh is 300 seconds, so no
> >>> worries there either: =========== nslookup
> >>>> set q=soa thebikeproject.org.
> >>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
> >>>
> >>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org origin =
> >>> ns.chambana.net mail addr = hostmaster.chambana.net serial =
> >>> 2013012600 refresh = 300 retry = 300 expire = 2419200 minimum =
> >>> 300
> >>>
> >>> Authoritative answers can be found from: ===========
> >>>
> >>> Let me know what you think...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Chris,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:51 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
> >>>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:10 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just to clarify on the below: I don't think I have the
> >>>>>>> admin access to do this myself for thebikeproject.org
> >>>>>>> <http://thebikeproject.org> (for example, I don't have
> >>>>>>> login access to ns.chambana.net
> >>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net>). Could someone with admin
> >>>>>>> permissions edit the DNS zone file records for for me?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Barry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'd like to point the MX records for
> >>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> to
> >>>>>>>> Google's mail servers (then will use a feature of
> >>>>>>>> Google Apps for Non-profits). I think we'd need to
> >>>>>>>> change the records on the chambana.net
> >>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, not at my registrar
> >>>>>>>> 1and1, since my registrar's only involvement is to
> >>>>>>>> point to chambana nameservers (ns.chambana.net
> >>>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net/> and ns2.chambana.net
> >>>>>>>> <http://ns2.chambana.net/>). As far as I know,
> >>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> is
> >>>>>>>> currently not using mail at all on chambana.net
> >>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, so no active service
> >>>>>>>> would be endangered. I'm pretty sure our chambana
> >>>>>>>> mailing lists (bikecoop, bikecoop-staff,
> >>>>>>>> bikecoop-announce) would not be affected at all --
> >>>>>>>> but I don't know enough Mailman mailing list
> >>>>>>>> internals to be 100% positive; let me know if you
> >>>>>>>> think otherwise.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The MX values I'd like are at "MX Record Values,
> >>>>>>>> Google Apps Documentation"
> >>>>>>>> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=174125
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> except with TTL set to 86400, so:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Name/Host/Alias Time to Live (TTL) Record Type
> >>>>>>>> Value/Answer/Destination Blank or @ 86400 MX 1
> >>>>>>>> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> Blank
> >>>>>>>> or @ 86400 MX 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @
> >>>>>>>> 86400 MX 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @ 86400
> >>>>>>>> MX 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM
> >>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/> Blank or @ 86400 MX
> >>>>>>>> 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM
> >>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Essential, says Google, that ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM
> >>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> gets top priority.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I may be a little rusty here, let me know if
> >>>>>>>> something is obviously wrong
>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers, Barry
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
> >>>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
> >>>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612
> >>>>>>>> email: barryi at ks.uiuc.edu
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
> >>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
> >>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
> >>>>>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu>
> >>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> IMC-Tech mailing list IMC-Tech at lists.chambana.net
> >>>>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/imc-tech
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Barry, I can take a look at making these changes. I do
> >>>>>> think there is potential for issues with lists, though
> >>>>>> I'm not sure. Since we aren't hosting email accounts for
> >>>>>> TBP (that I know about), I think it should be fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> , you can also send mail now to support at tech.chambana.net
> >>>>>> to have these requests logged in our redmine ticket
> >>>>>> queue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll get back to you after I've had a chance to enact
> >>>>>> these changes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Barry, These changes have now been made to TBP's DNS record
> >>>>> on chambana.net. It may take a little bit for the change to
> >>>>> propogate to all three of chambana.net's DNS servers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let us know if you need additional changes made.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best, Chris R.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks much for making the changes, and for the quick
> >>>> response! I would normally know within a day or so if the
> >>>> changes work as hoped/intended, but with technology-free Rosh
> >>>> Hashanah coming Wed. night, I won't be able to check on this
> >>>> until Sunday. Should be able to let you know outcome, and
> >>>> ask after any other changes, then.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Barry
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational Biophysics
> >>>> Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois at
> >>>> Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
> >>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
--
Barry Isralewitz
Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group
3043 Beckman, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Office Phone: (217) 244-1612
email: barryi at ks.uiuc.edu http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
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