[UCIMC-Tech] point MX records to Google mail servers?
Josh King
jking at chambana.net
Wed Sep 11 13:13:58 UTC 2013
No problem, glad it worked!
On Tue 10 Sep 2013 02:52:11 PM EDT, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That did it! Plus, propagated to Google servers very quickly. I was worried a few minutes ago afraid that the TTL of 86400 that I requested -- which I now realize was overly long for testing phase-- would slow things down, with a 24-hour wait for some cache to clear, but fortunately did not. Test mails to some accounts I've set up (contact at thebikeproject.org, info at thebikeproject.org, etc.) have gone through fine.
> Thanks, Josh and Chris!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Barry
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Josh King wrote:
>
>> Hi Barry,
>>
>> That was my bad, when I corrected the records I didn't notice they
>> were missing the FQDN dot as well. It should be corrected now.
>>
>> On 09/10/2013 12:32 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>> Hi Josh, Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for working on this! We're almost there; the addresses I
>>> asked or are now in the MX records, but they all have
>>> "thebikeproject.org" tacked on to the end (see nslookup below).
>>> Maybe the problem is: in the BIND zone file, the Google mail
>>> server addresses each need a trailing dot (".") at the end, for
>>> example aspmx.l.google.com --> aspmx.l.google.com.
>>>
>>> ...to keep the local domain from being appended, so the current
>>> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org changes to -->
>>> aspmx.l.google.com in the MX records.
>>>
>>> Here's nslookup output.. ============================== ===>
>>> nslookup
>>>> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
>>> Server: 130.126.2.131 Address: 130.126.2.131#53
>>>
>>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 5
>>> alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org mail
>>> exchanger = 5 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org.
>>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 1
>>> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org. thebikeproject.org mail
>>> exchanger = 10 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org.
>>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
>>> aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org.
>>>
>>> Authoritative answers can be found from: thebikeproject.org
>>> nameserver = ns2.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org nameserver =
>>> ns.chambana.net. thebikeproject.org nameserver = ns3.chambana.net.
>>> aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org internet address =
>>> 209.66.96.72 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org internet
>>> address = 209.66.96.72 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.thebikeproject.org
>>> internet address = 209.66.96.72
>>> aspmx2.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org internet address =
>>> 209.66.96.72 aspmx3.googlemail.com.thebikeproject.org internet
>>> address = 209.66.96.72 ns.chambana.net internet address =
>>> 64.89.16.20 ns2.chambana.net internet address = 192.80.111.168
>>> ns3.chambana.net internet address = 209.66.96.66
>>> ==============================
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Josh King wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Barry,
>>>>
>>>> There was a typo in the records as entered. The zone should be
>>>> replying with the correct information now.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat 07 Sep 2013 05:24:00 AM EDT, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for working on this, but it looks like MX records
>>>>> haven't changed, that they are still "10
>>>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.". Here's some nslookup results, which
>>>>> seem to show that ns.chambana.net is providing the old records
>>>>> ("10 mail.thebikeproject.org.") and an SOA query which shows
>>>>> that ns.chambana.net is the right place to ask for
>>>>> thebikeproject.org .
>>>>>
>>>>> ================= ===> nslookup
>>>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>>>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-authoritative answer: Name: thebikeproject.org Address:
>>>>> 209.66.96.72
>>>>>> set q=mx thebikeproject.org.
>>>>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org mail exchanger =
>>>>> 10 mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Authoritative answers can be found from:
>>>>>> server ns.chambana.net
>>>>> Default server: ns.chambana.net Address: 64.89.16.20#53
>>>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>>>> Server: ns.chambana.net Address: 64.89.16.20#53
>>>>>
>>>>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
>>>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>>>>> server ns2.chambana.net.
>>>>> Default server: ns2.chambana.net. Address: 192.80.111.168#53
>>>>>> thebikeproject.org.
>>>>> Server: ns2.chambana.net. Address: 192.80.111.168#53
>>>>>
>>>>> thebikeproject.org mail exchanger = 10
>>>>> mail.thebikeproject.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>
>>>>> If I query Start of Authority (soa) I am seeing, as expected,
>>>>> 'origin' as 'ns.chambana.net'. Refresh is 300 seconds, so no
>>>>> worries there either: =========== nslookup
>>>>>> set q=soa thebikeproject.org.
>>>>> Server: 75.75.75.75 Address: 75.75.75.75#53
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-authoritative answer: thebikeproject.org origin =
>>>>> ns.chambana.net mail addr = hostmaster.chambana.net serial =
>>>>> 2013012600 refresh = 300 retry = 300 expire = 2419200 minimum =
>>>>> 300
>>>>>
>>>>> Authoritative answers can be found from: ===========
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:51 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/03/2013 07:10 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify on the below: I don't think I have the
>>>>>>>>> admin access to do this myself for thebikeproject.org
>>>>>>>>> <http://thebikeproject.org> (for example, I don't have
>>>>>>>>> login access to ns.chambana.net
>>>>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net>). Could someone with admin
>>>>>>>>> permissions edit the DNS zone file records for for me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to point the MX records for
>>>>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> to
>>>>>>>>>> Google's mail servers (then will use a feature of
>>>>>>>>>> Google Apps for Non-profits). I think we'd need to
>>>>>>>>>> change the records on the chambana.net
>>>>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, not at my registrar
>>>>>>>>>> 1and1, since my registrar's only involvement is to
>>>>>>>>>> point to chambana nameservers (ns.chambana.net
>>>>>>>>>> <http://ns.chambana.net/> and ns2.chambana.net
>>>>>>>>>> <http://ns2.chambana.net/>). As far as I know,
>>>>>>>>>> thebikeproject.org <http://thebikeproject.org/> is
>>>>>>>>>> currently not using mail at all on chambana.net
>>>>>>>>>> <http://chambana.net/> servers, so no active service
>>>>>>>>>> would be endangered. I'm pretty sure our chambana
>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (bikecoop, bikecoop-staff,
>>>>>>>>>> bikecoop-announce) would not be affected at all --
>>>>>>>>>> but I don't know enough Mailman mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> internals to be 100% positive; let me know if you
>>>>>>>>>> think otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The MX values I'd like are at "MX Record Values,
>>>>>>>>>> Google Apps Documentation"
>>>>>>>>>> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=174125
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> except with TTL set to 86400, so:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Name/Host/Alias Time to Live (TTL) Record Type
>>>>>>>>>> Value/Answer/Destination Blank or @ 86400 MX 1
>>>>>>>>>> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> Blank
>>>>>>>>>> or @ 86400 MX 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @
>>>>>>>>>> 86400 MX 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM Blank or @ 86400
>>>>>>>>>> MX 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM
>>>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/> Blank or @ 86400 MX
>>>>>>>>>> 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM
>>>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Essential, says Google, that ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM
>>>>>>>>>> <http://ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM/> gets top priority.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I may be a little rusty here, let me know if
>>>>>>>>>> something is obviously wrong
>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Barry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
>>>>>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
>>>>>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612
>>>>>>>>>> email: barryi at ks.uiuc.edu
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational
>>>>>>>>> Biophysics Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois
>>>>>>>>> at Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
>>>>>>>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu <mailto:barryi at ks.uiuc.edu>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> IMC-Tech mailing list IMC-Tech at lists.chambana.net
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/imc-tech
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Barry, I can take a look at making these changes. I do
>>>>>>>> think there is potential for issues with lists, though
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure. Since we aren't hosting email accounts for
>>>>>>>> TBP (that I know about), I think it should be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> , you can also send mail now to support at tech.chambana.net
>>>>>>>> to have these requests logged in our redmine ticket
>>>>>>>> queue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll get back to you after I've had a chance to enact
>>>>>>>> these changes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barry, These changes have now been made to TBP's DNS record
>>>>>>> on chambana.net. It may take a little bit for the change to
>>>>>>> propogate to all three of chambana.net's DNS servers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let us know if you need additional changes made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, Chris R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks much for making the changes, and for the quick
>>>>>> response! I would normally know within a day or so if the
>>>>>> changes work as hoped/intended, but with technology-free Rosh
>>>>>> Hashanah coming Wed. night, I won't be able to check on this
>>>>>> until Sunday. Should be able to let you know outcome, and
>>>>>> ask after any other changes, then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Barry Isralewitz Theoretical and Computational Biophysics
>>>>>> Group 3043 Beckman, University of Illinois at
>>>>>> Urbana-Champaign Office Phone: (217) 244-1612 email:
>>>>>> barryi at ks.uiuc.edu http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~barryi
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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