[UCIMC-Tech] does Makerspace have a spare PC (even if stripped-of-RAM+disk) for WRFU streaming?
Chris Ritzo
critzo at chambana.net
Tue Dec 15 12:11:30 EST 2015
I noted in the conversation that there are lingering issues with
chambana.net services. I think the last thing imc-tech folks like Josh
and would want is for local folks to be experiencing issues with
services or the network at the IMC that we used to or currently maintain.
If there are things that are unresolved or needing attention, please
email me directly if no one is responding on imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
-Chris
On 12/15/2015 12:00 PM, Stewart Dickson wrote:
> There are, in principle, no shortage of server-class machines to use for
> this. Glad to hear there might be rack space/cooling capacity left in a
> server room.
>
> John Koontz once stated at a IMC Tech Working Group/Chambana.net
> workshop (2012) that he has a garage full of
> "lightly used" rack-mountable server-class machines. They might be
> pre-loaded with a Scientific Linux flavor of some sort.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Stewart
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com
> <mailto:stuartnlevy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is a good point - though I think that it comes out to be mainly
> a point about getting into streaming altogether, rather than about
> choosing local vs. cloud service for a piece of the streaming
> setup. To do streaming at all, we *have* to have one local
> computer involved in the process - we can't stream if that goes
> down, or loses its internet connection, or if its audio capture path
> flakes out, etc. So I see the key choice not as between needing
> local support vs paying for someone else's reliable service, but
> between requiring local support for one computer vs. two of them -
> or else not taking on streaming.
>
> Assuming we do go with our own server, I'm assuming I would be (the
> first person to be) in charge of administering it.
>
> But yes, it would in any case be crucial to have multiple people who
> know how to administer whatever streaming tech we use!
>
> On 12/14/15 1:40 PM, Emily Knox wrote:
>> Although I'm sure we have PCs that could be used for this purpose
>> I'm not sure that this is the best way to go. Who will be in
>> charge of administration of the server? Is there a transition
>> plan in place for when that person moves on for whatever reason?
>>
>> We are currently having this problem with chambana.net
>> <http://chambana.net>. I realize that it often seems more cost
>> effective in the beginning to use home grown solutions but in the
>> end they often end up costing more (or dying) because no one is
>> willing to take on the work for free.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:27 PM, UCIMC Operations Director
>> <<mailto:ucimcoperationsdirector at gmail.com>ucimcoperationsdirector at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ucimcoperationsdirector at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Stuart,
>>
>> I ditto Gergana and Jay. Also, I can show you where the
>> office has a couple of donated units and there is an Apple
>> unit under the far side desk of the Public i office/groups
>> room next to the office.
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>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Jay Schubert
>> <<mailto:jay.schubert at gmail.com>jay.schubert at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jay.schubert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there are still 10-15 donated machines in
>> the janitor's closet opposite BTP which the board decided
>> should be for IMC projects as first priority. They're
>> core 2 duos and there are also stacks of hdd's and most of
>> the machines have ram. I think the ones with red dots all
>> post. There are also lcd monitors down there.
>>
>> - Jay
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Stuart Levy
>> <stuartnlevy at gmail.com <mailto:stuartnlevy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm not sure how best to ask something of the
>> Makerspace in general -
>> hope you don't mind it going to you.
>>
>> Question: does Makerspace, or the IMC in general, have
>> a spare PC in
>> good condition - *even a stripped one,* lacking disk
>> or RAM - which
>> could become WRFU's dedicated internet streaming
>> server? If so, could
>> I have it? I'd like to populate it with any needed
>> hardware and set
>> it up somewhere.
>>
>> Details:
>>
>> WRFU still aims to start internet streaming, hopefully
>> close to the turn
>> of the year. Don McClure and I were talking about
>> this last night.
>>
>> Chris Ritzo had set up a demonstration server using
>> AirTime
>> software+service, during the October anniversary
>> gathering. It worked
>> well, but depended on using AirTime's cloud servers --
>> which meant we
>> got support (good) but have limited & expensive
>> storage for archiving
>> programming (not so good). The service also costs
>> about $500/year for
>> a reasonable number of streams (not great either).
>>
>> It's supposedly also possible to install the same
>> AirTime software onto
>> a *local* computer, let it be the streaming source,
>> and archive programs
>> onto its filesystems. Then we could archive lots of
>> programs, and
>> wouldn't need to pay AirTime's cloud charges, at the
>> cost of having to
>> maintain and back up the machine ourselves. I think
>> that's the best
>> way to go.
>>
>> Am hoping there's a donated shell-of-a-PC which could
>> serve. AirTime
>> is supported under Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, so I'd probably
>> install that. I
>> would go and buy any needed hardware to make it
>> functional.
>>
>> We'd need to find a good place for it where it'd (a)
>> have a good
>> internet connection, (b) be reasonably accessible but
>> (c) be fairly
>> protected from temperature extremes, being tripped
>> over, etc.
>>
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>> --
>>
>> - Jay
>>
>>
>>
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