[IMC-US-tech] RE: [IMC-US] Re: Acorn Active Media Worker Collective Offer: (Sascha Meinrath)

[Tribal Scribal]

Why do i feel like the invisible man over here?  No one seems to be 
addressing my point about the  inequities of singling out groups for public 
praise, about how so many other teams (features, audio, etc.) forgo paying 
work to put endless hours into Indy w/o such acknowledgement?

d.o.



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>From: faith swords <faith at ucimc.org>
>To: imc-us at ucimc.org, <imc-us-tech at ucimc.org>
>CC: aam at ucimc.org
>Subject: RE: [IMC-US] Re: Acorn Active Media Worker Collective Offer: 
>(Sascha Meinrath)
>Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:33:00 -0600 (CST)
>
>i am just tuning into this debate and would like to point out a few things
>(as someone who has been around for the IMC-US start-up as well as the
>Acorn start-up).
>
>as a fledgling company, Acorn is pursuing projects that mirror the ideals
>and visions of the people involved. everyone in the
>collective is active in the UCIMC, in many different arenas and
>capacities. getting involved with the US-IMC is, i'm sure, something that
>they would be willing to do anyway, because this is exactly the kind of
>project that they're looking for. that said, as a brand new company, being
>able to present the US-IMC site as work they have done to other potential
>clients would help Acorn get off the ground.
>
>given that we are all working together, i see no problem with letting the
>Acorn collective do the website work and putting a little box in the
>bottom corner saying who did the design. it's the equivalent of saying
>"this site is maintained by the webmaster at usimc.org" or whatever. in the
>spirit of generosity, it seems to me that this discussion, which is great
>because it's discussion which leads to activity which there hasn't been
>enough of lately, is not what we need to be talking about.
>
>sascha was not implying that "indymedia folks alone don't have the
>resources to get an IMC-US site up." i think that involving Acorn in this
>way is a great way of getting new blood into this project. these are
>people who are willing to dedicate a large part of their time exclusively
>to getting the site up and running. it seems to me that one of the reasons
>we don't already have an IMC-US site is that there hasn't been anyone
>willing to do that, for one reason or another.
>
>they're not asking to be paid, and would probably work on this
>individually whether or not they get any kind of acknowledgement for doing
>it, but i think it would be quite generous of the IMC-US group to
>collaborate with Acorn on this.
>
>as for the whole point being made about how indymedia should be able to do
>this without help, i would like to reiterate the fact that every member of
>the Acorn collective is a "member" of indymedia.
>
>i share sascha and max's frustration with this new concern; i also would
>like to know if the people concerned are blocking this proposal or not,
>and if they are, i would like them to come up with a viable alternative,
>but it seems to me that further discussion of this is yet another stall in
>this project, and in my opinion, there have been enough of those.
>
>--faith swords
>UCIMC
>
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