[Imc-web] Re: [UCIMC-Tech] Re: [Imc] Today's Internet Outage

[Mike Lehman]

Dan,
I guess this means that previous planning for better connectivity at the 
IMC has hit a snag? Time for some sort of Plan B, as Insight was never 
meant as anything more than a temporary solution based on what I 
remember. There are several obstacles to be overcome.

Planning for solicitation of funding from chambana.net users is 
something that needs to be concluded and an appeal and/or online 
donation venues need to be provided, ASAP. Do I understand correctly 
this was one of the things that was lost in the Great March Server 
Meltdown? It seems like a very high priority to pursue funding in 
recovering from that, at a minimum. We need to also see if developing 
this revenue stream can sustain things or whether we need to come up 
with something else, such as assessing working groups by bandwidth or 
something.

I've been a spectator to these and other recent tech issues, except for 
being an occasionally frustrated IMC-web editor. I've noticed that many 
of those expecting help from IMC-Tech are techies themselves. In the old 
days, this would have precipitated a Tech meeting to get good solutions 
to the issues.

Now, everything seems to get funneled to you and whatever else 
constitutes the nearly-nonexistent IMC-Tech group. I would suggest that 
the optimal solution here is to get people together, especially those 
with tech skills in currently active IMC working groups. IMC-Tech has 
always found this model of those "with a dog in the fight" solving the 
problems that we face worked. I'm not a techie, so can't help but to 
remind us that all the energy spent wondering why "IMC-Tech" hadn't 
solved problem  "X" that my working group "X" needs solved ASAP might be 
better spent on more holistic and participatory solutions in a revived 
IMC-Tech group.

Unless we revive the IMC-Tech group into more than what you and Josh can 
handle in whatever time you have to devote to it, then all those 
expecting connectivity, etc at the IMC will likely see further 
deterioration. We have more infrastructure, higher expectations, and 
less people power than ever to maintain it.

People either need to get used to putting up with the rough edges -- or 
they need to do some organizing to get IMC-Tech healthy again.

As for Insight, the sooner we are no longer dependent on that ship o' 
fools, the better, given the last couple of days of incompetence on 
their part. Are we the only location affected? Or are others in downtown 
similarly afflicted?

My 2 cents as a user (but definitely not a techie),
Mike Lehman

dan blah wrote:
> Josh King wrote:
>   
>> Just to let everyone concerned know what happened with the website, our
>> ISP Insight had an outage in the downtown area today, which resulted in
>> a loss of internet connectivity for much of the morning and afternoon.
>> They repaired the problem and the websites and email are now back
>> online, as well as connectivity within the building.
>>
>>
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>
> echo but for most all of today.  anyone want to donate a bunch of money
> so we can get something better than insight to provide internet for the
> several hundred users of chambana.net :)
>
> i was assured after spending over 2 hours on hold today that the issue
> has been resolved and we shouldn't expect another outage (what they told
> me yesterday and a few months back).
>
> thanks for hanging on...
> --
> Daniel
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