[Newspoetry] tech questions / NEWSPOETRY LIVE AT SWEET BETSY'S!!

bhagy at onthejob.net bhagy at onthejob.net
Sat Sep 25 12:55:51 CDT 1999


drats, foiled again by that dastardly math.  somebody outta do something
about that there math one of these days.  still maybe there's ways around
that,
such as ftping the video file to various other computers throughout the
world (with the server software, which is free), or something like that?
i've got a few ideas, but would want to find out if they're even possible
(since i don't yet trust my overwhelmingly vast knowledge of, well,
nothing).  DSC's getting a T1 connection, and since they'll never use all
that bandwidth ever (don't even get me started as to why they think they
need a T1), maybe i could secretly hide it over there.  bwahahahaha, can
claim the evil mad scientist from the haunted theater did it! or have a
member of the prompting theater show up, then claim that it has to go on
the DSC web page cuz so and so was in it, thus it's a dsc thing (why not,
i've claimed house theaters as dsc projects in the past, even though no
dsc folk were in them, just wrote stuff for them).  ooo, the scams, the
scams.  the things John is teaching us!

but on a somewhat positive note:  peaches are in season!

brian


On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Joe Futrelle wrote:

> On a somewhat negative note: sergei's definitely powerful enough to be
> a streaming video server for a small number of simultaneous users, but
> OJC/CLAM does not have nearly enough network bandwidth to do that.  5
> simultaneous video streams at 28.8 would completely max out OJC/CLAM's
> network connection.  So, doing the math, even one stream would cut
> OJC/CLAM's bandwidth to the outside world by 20% for the duration of
> the segment.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 09:30:23PM -0500, bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > you need both, a special fileformat, so that the receiving program (such
> > as quicktime or RealVideo) knows that the info coming in is in a streaming
> > format, and you need the hardware which can generate streaming video.
> > this computer sergei at OJC has an mpegII video capture card (both input
> > and output capabilities) and uses Premiere 5.0 realtime and Quicktime 4.0,
> > both capable of handling streaming video (premiere i know can generate a
> > streaming file as well, haven't used quicktime enough to know for
> > certain).  i'm not sure of how this technology works completely, but am
> > trying to learn.  you don't need a server to actually send streaming
> > video, it just makes things quicker.  sergei is actually pretty powerful
> > and speedy, so it can easily handle streaming (it can actually handle DVD
> > authoring, which is much much more complicated).  feel free to come by and
> > play. anyone interested will probably need to get an account though, cuz
> > it's one of these NT machines with all those frickin security passwords
> > and mumble-jumbles.
> > 
> > we can probably take a picture of Sweet Betsy's and doctor it up with
> > photoshop and after effects so that it becomes quite the convincing hip
> > place to be these days (which i think it is anyways, but that's a
> > different story, kinda like how cinderella is also a different story.  as
> > a matter of fact, so is the story of the beginning of plaid picnic
> > tablecloths)
> > 
> >  quack quack.
> > 
> > brian
> > 
> > On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, gillespie william k wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Yay! We'll have to set a date and sit down and talk some serious
> > > megabytes, get our high-tech ducks in a row. 
> > > 
> > > Using the power of the Internet we can lie and say that Sweet Betsy's is
> > > an excruciatingly hip coffeshop on the lower east side. I guess that's
> > > actually not a lie, when phrased like that.
> > > 
> > > Do you need a special server to stream, or is it just a fileformat?
> > > 
> > > Willy G.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > > 
> > > > hey, william!  if you want to put video on the web, you can use sergei.
> > > > that's this video editing computer over at OJC.  Has video capture,
> > > > streaming video, sound recording and editing (though not in MP3 yet, but
> > > > that can change if there's a need, since the software is free somewhere),
> > > > and all that.  i've been wanting to learn more about streaming
> > > > video/audio, so perhaps this would be a chance for me to learn!
> > > > don't have a video camera, but Kord does.  i'm sure he'd love to help, if
> > > > available.  soundwise, recording the event with Minidisc would be best but
> > > > an Aiwa tape deck will do, (in a pinch, of course) and then transfering
> > > > to Realaudio or MP3, both have advantages/disadvantages, though MP3 seems
> > > > to be gaining popularity.
> > > > 
> > > > egads, a new trend:  streaming poetry readings!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > brian
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, William Gillespie wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hey. That kicks ass. I've been out of town reading the Unknown in Iowa and just
> > > > > got this message. The dates all look good, I'd like to read, and, most of all,
> > > > > I'd like to document the whole thing for publication/webcasting on Newspoetry,
> > > > > and make a big deal about it (which, assure me, will look like an even bigger
> > > > > deal on the other side of Internet - those webzine people in Frisco sure managed
> > > > > to make me think I was missing the revolution when they had their event this
> > > > > year.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Largely due to http://wrybread.com (check out their crack-cam and let me know
> > > > > whether you think it's funny (or ethical)), who had raw footage of the event
> > > > > being posted as it was taking place, from their van with the digital camera /
> > > > > uplink and simple, elegant CGI-scripts allowing web-observers to scrawl their
> > > > > comments about the event directly onto the site, as the event took place.
> > > > > 
> > > > > )
> > > > > 
> > > > > So here's some technical questions:
> > > > > 
> > > > > -anybody got a digital camera?
> > > > > -those things are cool aren't they?
> > > > > -is there any way to get audio rebweady that's faster than recording it, then
> > > > > encoding it as RealAudio or MP3?
> > > > > -which would be better for this, realaudio or MP3?
> > > > > -how do you put video on the web?
> > > > > -that's be pretty cool, wouldn't it, to put a video of us reading our po'erty on
> > > > > the web?
> > > > > -i bet that kind of gear is expensive.
> > > > > -yeah.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Unknown has made do with a 1997 Aiwa portable tape recorder and a Kodak
> > > > > Advantix, but I bet there's better ways to go about it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, anybody want to do a Halloween costume reading / Roman gluttony (with
> > > > > vegetarian options) thing in Mike's yard on Halloween (Sunday), maybe late
> > > > > afternoon. (for warmth and to not interfere with other events). To document and
> > > > > post. (It's Scott's birthday weekend.) And, of course, enjoy maximally. Right,
> > > > > Mike?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Paul Kotheimer wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > hey fellow Newspoets!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we're thinking about WHEN to have a NEWSPOETRY reading.  Sweet Betsy's
> > > > > > likes Sunday Afternoons (2-5PM).  other times can be arranged.  Friday
> > > > > > "happy hour" (6-8 PM) might be fun, for example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne and i are looking at the calendar, thinking about the second full
> > > > > > week in october (i.e., the 15th if we can get the Friday happy hour, the
> > > > > > 17th, if we go with the sunday slot).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it seems like there are people enough to set up the shindig--i.e. YOU DON'T
> > > > > > HAVE TO ORGANIZE ANYTHING (unless you want to pitch in...) All the Various
> > > > > > Newspoets At Large would have to do is: 1.  say whether you'd rather have it
> > > > > > be a different day than the two we've mentioned.  1.5.  let us know if you
> > > > > > want to read at said shindig, and what you plan to read.  2.  show up and
> > > > > > bring friends, if you can.  3.  if you're out of town, let us know what of
> > > > > > yours you want the C-U crowd to read aloud on your behalf.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > kewl?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > please respond-o
> > > > > > or whatevah...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > paul (with your Aunt Barbara nearby)
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