[Newspoetry] tech questions / NEWSPOETRY LIVE AT SWEET BETSY'S!!
Joe Futrelle
futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Sun Sep 26 20:38:49 CDT 1999
I can host the stuff on my machine at NCSA. It has a huge amount of
disk space, can stream RealAudio no problem, and has more than enough
bandwidth to spare.
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 12:55:51PM -0500, bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> drats, foiled again by that dastardly math. somebody outta do something
> about that there math one of these days. still maybe there's ways around
> that,
> such as ftping the video file to various other computers throughout the
> world (with the server software, which is free), or something like that?
> i've got a few ideas, but would want to find out if they're even possible
> (since i don't yet trust my overwhelmingly vast knowledge of, well,
> nothing). DSC's getting a T1 connection, and since they'll never use all
> that bandwidth ever (don't even get me started as to why they think they
> need a T1), maybe i could secretly hide it over there. bwahahahaha, can
> claim the evil mad scientist from the haunted theater did it! or have a
> member of the prompting theater show up, then claim that it has to go on
> the DSC web page cuz so and so was in it, thus it's a dsc thing (why not,
> i've claimed house theaters as dsc projects in the past, even though no
> dsc folk were in them, just wrote stuff for them). ooo, the scams, the
> scams. the things John is teaching us!
>
> but on a somewhat positive note: peaches are in season!
>
> brian
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Joe Futrelle wrote:
>
> > On a somewhat negative note: sergei's definitely powerful enough to be
> > a streaming video server for a small number of simultaneous users, but
> > OJC/CLAM does not have nearly enough network bandwidth to do that. 5
> > simultaneous video streams at 28.8 would completely max out OJC/CLAM's
> > network connection. So, doing the math, even one stream would cut
> > OJC/CLAM's bandwidth to the outside world by 20% for the duration of
> > the segment.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 09:30:23PM -0500, bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > > you need both, a special fileformat, so that the receiving program (such
> > > as quicktime or RealVideo) knows that the info coming in is in a streaming
> > > format, and you need the hardware which can generate streaming video.
> > > this computer sergei at OJC has an mpegII video capture card (both input
> > > and output capabilities) and uses Premiere 5.0 realtime and Quicktime 4.0,
> > > both capable of handling streaming video (premiere i know can generate a
> > > streaming file as well, haven't used quicktime enough to know for
> > > certain). i'm not sure of how this technology works completely, but am
> > > trying to learn. you don't need a server to actually send streaming
> > > video, it just makes things quicker. sergei is actually pretty powerful
> > > and speedy, so it can easily handle streaming (it can actually handle DVD
> > > authoring, which is much much more complicated). feel free to come by and
> > > play. anyone interested will probably need to get an account though, cuz
> > > it's one of these NT machines with all those frickin security passwords
> > > and mumble-jumbles.
> > >
> > > we can probably take a picture of Sweet Betsy's and doctor it up with
> > > photoshop and after effects so that it becomes quite the convincing hip
> > > place to be these days (which i think it is anyways, but that's a
> > > different story, kinda like how cinderella is also a different story. as
> > > a matter of fact, so is the story of the beginning of plaid picnic
> > > tablecloths)
> > >
> > > quack quack.
> > >
> > > brian
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, gillespie william k wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yay! We'll have to set a date and sit down and talk some serious
> > > > megabytes, get our high-tech ducks in a row.
> > > >
> > > > Using the power of the Internet we can lie and say that Sweet Betsy's is
> > > > an excruciatingly hip coffeshop on the lower east side. I guess that's
> > > > actually not a lie, when phrased like that.
> > > >
> > > > Do you need a special server to stream, or is it just a fileformat?
> > > >
> > > > Willy G.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hey, william! if you want to put video on the web, you can use sergei.
> > > > > that's this video editing computer over at OJC. Has video capture,
> > > > > streaming video, sound recording and editing (though not in MP3 yet, but
> > > > > that can change if there's a need, since the software is free somewhere),
> > > > > and all that. i've been wanting to learn more about streaming
> > > > > video/audio, so perhaps this would be a chance for me to learn!
> > > > > don't have a video camera, but Kord does. i'm sure he'd love to help, if
> > > > > available. soundwise, recording the event with Minidisc would be best but
> > > > > an Aiwa tape deck will do, (in a pinch, of course) and then transfering
> > > > > to Realaudio or MP3, both have advantages/disadvantages, though MP3 seems
> > > > > to be gaining popularity.
> > > > >
> > > > > egads, a new trend: streaming poetry readings!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > brian
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, William Gillespie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey. That kicks ass. I've been out of town reading the Unknown in Iowa and just
> > > > > > got this message. The dates all look good, I'd like to read, and, most of all,
> > > > > > I'd like to document the whole thing for publication/webcasting on Newspoetry,
> > > > > > and make a big deal about it (which, assure me, will look like an even bigger
> > > > > > deal on the other side of Internet - those webzine people in Frisco sure managed
> > > > > > to make me think I was missing the revolution when they had their event this
> > > > > > year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Largely due to http://wrybread.com (check out their crack-cam and let me know
> > > > > > whether you think it's funny (or ethical)), who had raw footage of the event
> > > > > > being posted as it was taking place, from their van with the digital camera /
> > > > > > uplink and simple, elegant CGI-scripts allowing web-observers to scrawl their
> > > > > > comments about the event directly onto the site, as the event took place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So here's some technical questions:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -anybody got a digital camera?
> > > > > > -those things are cool aren't they?
> > > > > > -is there any way to get audio rebweady that's faster than recording it, then
> > > > > > encoding it as RealAudio or MP3?
> > > > > > -which would be better for this, realaudio or MP3?
> > > > > > -how do you put video on the web?
> > > > > > -that's be pretty cool, wouldn't it, to put a video of us reading our po'erty on
> > > > > > the web?
> > > > > > -i bet that kind of gear is expensive.
> > > > > > -yeah.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Unknown has made do with a 1997 Aiwa portable tape recorder and a Kodak
> > > > > > Advantix, but I bet there's better ways to go about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, anybody want to do a Halloween costume reading / Roman gluttony (with
> > > > > > vegetarian options) thing in Mike's yard on Halloween (Sunday), maybe late
> > > > > > afternoon. (for warmth and to not interfere with other events). To document and
> > > > > > post. (It's Scott's birthday weekend.) And, of course, enjoy maximally. Right,
> > > > > > Mike?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Kotheimer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hey fellow Newspoets!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we're thinking about WHEN to have a NEWSPOETRY reading. Sweet Betsy's
> > > > > > > likes Sunday Afternoons (2-5PM). other times can be arranged. Friday
> > > > > > > "happy hour" (6-8 PM) might be fun, for example.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne and i are looking at the calendar, thinking about the second full
> > > > > > > week in october (i.e., the 15th if we can get the Friday happy hour, the
> > > > > > > 17th, if we go with the sunday slot).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it seems like there are people enough to set up the shindig--i.e. YOU DON'T
> > > > > > > HAVE TO ORGANIZE ANYTHING (unless you want to pitch in...) All the Various
> > > > > > > Newspoets At Large would have to do is: 1. say whether you'd rather have it
> > > > > > > be a different day than the two we've mentioned. 1.5. let us know if you
> > > > > > > want to read at said shindig, and what you plan to read. 2. show up and
> > > > > > > bring friends, if you can. 3. if you're out of town, let us know what of
> > > > > > > yours you want the C-U crowd to read aloud on your behalf.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > kewl?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > please respond-o
> > > > > > > or whatevah...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > paul (with your Aunt Barbara nearby)
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