[Peace-discuss] Tires Plus: Expect meanness, respond with kindness or disengagement
Charlotte Green
chgreen48 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 19 10:50:04 CST 2003
I agree that we have to be firm and hold fast to our
anti-war message. We are doing so by showing up week
after week to demonstrate our opposition in front of
Tires Plus.
I think Carl's phone call is not a timid move--he is
confronting our opposition in a respectful manner and
offering to discuss the issues. I think sending a
letter indicating that we respect the property of
Tires Plus and asking for their respect for our right
to demonstrate, which is an integral part of living in
a democracy, as well as the reasons why we oppose the
war, is right on track.
I think a boycott would be counterproductive. It
seems to me that a boycott would be a retaliatory
move, which would only give people (Tires Plus and
others) reason to retaliate against us. Our anti-war
message would be overshadowed.
If we operate by a higher standard than our
opposition, people will be drawn to our cause.
Charlotte
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-- "Morton K.Brussel" <brussel at staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I get the impression that we are becoming overly
> timid. I'm referring
> to the question of whether it should be promulgated
> that Tires Plus is
> antagonistic, or worse, to the anti-war movement. I
> believe that there
> are instances where you have to know your
> antagonists as distinct from
> those who are uncommitted to the war issue, or
> committed by
> mistakei.e., by ignorance. Should Israeli goods be
> boycotted? Many
> believe this to be an effective way to affect
> Israel's governmental
> policies. Should we have boycotted the apartheid
> South Africa's goods?
> Should we be afraid of criticizing, harshly, George
> W. Bush, Cheney,
> Rumsfeld et al, lest we offend people who believe
> that they are
> honorable men? Should we be afraid to condemn
> corporations that that
> support the weapons industry, or who give funds to
> politicians to do
> that and support war? Should we be nice to avowed
> racists, e.g.,
> businesses that discriminate against ethnic groups?
>
> There are many people whose minds about war in Iraq
> you will not be
> able to change. Many of these believe that those
> against war are
> traitors to their country, contemptible peace-nics.
> You can ascribe
> their war-like tendencies to various causes, trust
> in their leaders,
> for example, but they exist. I don't think that
> special consideration
> needs to be extended to these types; rather
> non-violent militancy
> against them is in order. You can try to convince
> them otherwise, but
> you should be firm that you will oppose them for
> their inimical
> actions. Gandhi had no scruples about severely
> condemning the British
> in India before independence. Nor did Martin Luther
> King worry about
> offending the southern mentality of segregation.
>
> I look at the managers/owners of Tires Plus in this
> light. I do not
> think we need be timid about saying that they have
> been more than
> unfriendly to our efforts. It is entirely
> conceivable that we could
> gain respect by not being so timid. It is also
> conceivable that Tires
> Plus might become less aggressive to us if they knew
> that there would
> be economic costs involved.
>
> I haven't decided whether a letter to the N-G is
> appropriate for what
> has transpired between us and Tires Plus, but I am
> tempted to let the
> public know what has happened.
>
> As for the comment that signs such as "Bomb Texas"
> are used by our
> opponents [The N-G] against us, perhaps. That may be
> a tactical error,
> but a good political point was being made, if
> perhaps too
> belligerently. Let's not discourage the diversity
> of our sentiments
> and metaphors.
>
> Mort Brussel
>
>
> On Monday, Feb 17, 2003, at 22:05 US/Central, Joan
> Nelshoppen wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure that anyone was targeted. My minivan
> looks a lot like
> > the one they were trying to tow and they initially
> thought that the
> > woman with two small kids (me) was the one parked
> there.
> >
> > I agree with what everyone is saying about
> responding with kindness.
> > I believe it is really important that protestors
> for peace act in a
> > nonviolent manner.
> >
> > Please do not publicly target the tire place for a
> boycott. That will
> > not win anyone over.
> >
> > Also - would it be useful to reexamine some of the
> new signs?
> > Although things like "Bomb Texas" may make a few
> protestors laugh I
> > think signs like that do more harm then good and
> are not perceived
> > well by people you might be trying to get to join
> you. I didn't get a
> > chance to look at all the signs as I was driving
> over to protest on
> > Saturday (I was just totally amazed and proud at
> the number of people)
> > so I don't know if it was still out there. But if
> I had seen that one
> > I would have been offended. (I should mention I
> am someone who
> > totally opposes this war.) Incidentally, that sign
> made the News
> > Gazette and not in a flattering light.
> >
> > Joan
>
> Preferred email: brussel at uiuc.edu
>
>
> Morton K. Brussel
> 2003 George Huff Drive
> Urbana, Illinois, 61801-6203
> Tel. 217 337-0118
>
> Preferred email: brussel at uiuc.edu
>
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