[Peace-discuss] A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bush!

[Ken Urban]

Bravo to you Phil!

As I've pointed out before, a democratic president, Clinton has killed a lot more Iraqis than Bush has.  I don't see any reason that Kerry will change that, in fact, in order to keep up this facade of misguided "manliness" to "stay the course", Kerry will be just as bad as Bush in the near term.  

The other side is that many of us are idealists, who believe in peace.  We will not throw away our vote for either the lesser or greater war monger, we will work for peace in the ways we know how, including voting for a candidate who stands for peace and working to make one available.

Ken

PS There's a Green meeting this Wednesday, May 5, 7pm at the IMC.  Why not work for peace on the political side as well as the activist side, we sure could use the help.  If there's no viable Green Party, there no choice but the two war parties.


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>>> "Phil Stinard" <pstinard at hotmail.com> 5/3/2004 12:21:15 PM >>>
Bravo, bravo, there's a lot to be said for presumptuousness, intentional 
misunderstanding, and sublty couched insults!  Did I say I was wishing ill 
on anyone to meet my political ends?  I didn't even know that I had any 
political ends!  Sure, I wish ill for Bush and Kerry, but that's because 
they're trying to destroy the world.  Oh, just that.  But to meet political 
ends?  Really!    I was just making a prediction on how this affair would 
end.  I'm going to pursue the democratic (I should say electoral) route and 
vote my conscience, not what do what some self-deluded Kerry supporter tells 
me.

I get personal emails from Kerry supporters insulting me, and I really, 
REALLY don't have time for that.  You're not convincing me of anything 
except that maybe there is some kind of disinformation campaign going on to 
try to keep the left "in line" so that they can march lock-step to the 
polls, pull the democratic lever, and jump into the abyss.  Not for me, and 
NOT IN MY NAME!!!!  Have a nice day.

--Phil


>From: Jason Pitzl-Waters <jpitzl at wildhunt.org>
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bush!
>To: peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com 
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>The old "once it gets bad enough real change will happen" is a rather
>cold-hearted, illogical and dare I say privileged view of the world. For
>many a slight improvement will indeed be better than four more years of
>what Bush could do with a mandate and no fear of not getting re-elected
>(even Chomsky has admitted as much).
>
>I'm sure people could argue of the good that has come from times of great
>peril and suffering but I'm not fool enough to wish those times on anyone
>to meet my political ends.
>
>Just my two cents.
>
>Jason Pitzl-Waters
>http://www.wildhunt.org/ 

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