[Peace-discuss] Fw: YMCA partners with ARMY
Alfred Kagan
akagan at uiuc.edu
Mon Feb 14 11:06:39 CST 2005
I am more than troubled. The Y is in effect promoting the military
which is engaged in fighting wars of aggression.
On Feb 14, 2005, at 10:31 AM, jandurl wrote:
> Dear Peace List:
> Below is the response I received from the University YMCA in reference
> to
> the question asked by Kate, a member of student peace action. Kate was
> wondering about the use of the Y lawn by the ARMY.
> It sounds like we should no longer be concerned, since what Kate
> observed is
> not really a Y "program" (it took place outside the doors on the
> "lawn") and
> besides many current Y residents are "serving" their country in the
> "armed
> forces".
> Isn't that what a "young men's Christian Association" should be all
> about
> anyway? And besides the Y apparently needs the money. So I guess we
> shouldn't be concerned since the Y is "committed" to social justice
> and that
> army recruitment event on the lawn was just one more way to get young
> people
> interested in doing the right thing.
> Maybe next time the ARMY wants to rent the "Y" lawn someone can
> explain how
> military recruitment and social justice can work side by side. I am
> still
> troubled!
> JAN Kruse
>
> -
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: YMCA partners with ARMY
>
>
>> Hi Jan-
>>
>> Thank you for contacting me. As you know, the University YMCA runs on
>> a very limited budget and as such, relies quite heavily on space and
>> room rental fees. Our receptionist handles all rentals, like the one
>> on Friday from the ARMY and 107.1. It is policy for her to bring to
>> staff any inquiries about rentals from groups that are questionably
>> in efforts against the Y's, however, I don't believe she felt the
>> United States ARMY is one of those groups. Especially because so many
>> of Y students (residents and student leaders) have gone on to serve
>> our country in the armed forces.
>> As you also know, the University YMCA is an organization committed to
>> social justice efforts, but is open to the message of many. I
>> apologize on behalf of the Y for any concern this has caused, but
>> assure you the display on the lawn on Friday was in no way a "program
>> of the Y".
>> Please let me know if you have any other questions about this, and
>> feel free to pass this message along to the peace discuss list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Becca
>>
>>> Becca:
>>> Can you respond to this message? Many folks are worried about this
>>> and
> find
>>> this to be of concern?
>>> JAN Kruse
>
>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:26 PM
>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] YMCA partners with ARMY
>
> It is not everyday you can discover the "oportunities" of the
> ARMY on the front lawn of the University Y. But today was
> such a day. You could also get a free keychain, talk with a
> ROTC student, hear some rock blasting from speakers, and win
>>>> some tickets to a basketball game. 107.1 (the planet) and
>>>> the ARMY paired up to glamorize enlisting in the military.
>>>> But why were they allowed on the Y lawn? Is this common
>>>> policy? Does anyone know if this has happened before? I am
>>>> disturbed that the Y would allow people to recruit out
>>>> front. Even if they guise it as free speech (which I do not
>>>> yet know their reasons) it will not lead to free speech
>>>> wherever the people who enlist end up going. I find this
>>>> unethical and counterproductive to many of the events that
>>>> take place at the Y.
> -kate stepanski
> student peace action member
>
>
>
>
>
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Al Kagan
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University of Illinois Library
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