[Peace-discuss] Darfur talk

Morton K. Brussel brussel4 at insightbb.com
Wed Feb 22 22:52:16 CST 2006


The people in Darfur were said to be Muslim, but not to have adopted  
the Muslim ways of Khartoum—retaining their own culture and hence  
persecuted. As to the blackness of all concerned, Deng was murky on  
that. I remember him saying only that there was a tiny radical  
Islamist minority in Khartoum who were running things, the  
implication being that they may not have  been as black as those in  
Darfur. Perhaps Karen or May, who were sitting next to me will  
remember better.   --mkb

On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:16 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Thanks for the helpful summary, Mort.  Regarding "the long and
> tragic history of the black peoples in Sudan" -- aren't all
> the parties involved in Darfur, oppressors and oppressed
> alike, black (and Muslim)?  Here much of "Darfur awareness"
> (e.g., the article in the "Black History Month" issue of the
> Public i) seems to suggest that blacks there are being
> oppressed by Arabs, who it is implied are in some sense
> non-black. --CGE
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:32:06 -0600
>> From: "Morton K. Brussel" <brussel4 at insightbb.com>
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Darfur talk
>> To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>
>> This was a very well attended talk by Mr. Deng this evening,
> and
>> interesting. Deng was passionate in telling the long and tragic
>> history of the black peoples in Sudan. He asserted that slavery
>> continues in the Sudan.
>>
>> It is true (Carl had warned about such a move at our last
> meeting)
>> that a form was passed out to attendees promoting action by
> NATO, and
>> asking that appeals be made to President Bush to "do"
> something.
>> However, the speaker said, in response to a leading question,
>  that
>> he was not in favor of sending (Nato) troops to remedy what
> he truly
>> called a long ongoing genocide there; they would do no good
> he said,
>> and he didn't know how long they would remain there. As for the
>> African states, whom a questioner noted did not consider the
> problems
>> in Sudan genocidal,  he responded that  many were corrupt and
>> dictatorial, and were playing games of "noninterference" to
> protect
>> their own turf.
>>
>> It also seemed clear to me that the reason why so many Jewish
>> organizations (Hillel, etc.) on campus were sponsoring this
> week of
>> action, and this talk, was that the speaker was fierce in his
>> condemnation of Arabs, a little less so with respect to
> Muslims. He
>> is Christian.
>>
>> He appealed to his audience to demand of their
> representatives to
>> government that they do something, but he was somewhat
> unclear about
>> what he would recommend. He simply noted that previous
> pressure by
>> the western governments on the Sudan authorities did do some
> good,
>> but that now, they were essentially passive.
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