[Peace-discuss] Re: Paul Kotheimer

John Bambenek jcb.blog at gmail.com
Mon Oct 9 18:42:05 CDT 2006 

It's a problem for the University counsel and ethics officer to deal with now.

I will not comment further.

On 10/9/06, Wendy Edwards <wedwards at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> OK, I'm assuming you're referring to
> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs5.asp?ActID=2529&ChapAct=5%A0ILCS%A0430%2F&ChapterID=2&ChapterName=GENERAL+PROVISIONS&ActName=State+Officials+and+Employees+Ethics+Act%2E
> (or just try http://lnk.to/ethics)
> since the AHR Academic Staff Handbook doesn't say much about this.
> Let's look at the "Prohibited Political Activities":
>
>
> "Prohibited political activity" means:
>        (1) Preparing for, organizing, or participating in
> any political meeting, political rally, political demonstration, or other
> political event.
>        (2) Soliciting contributions, including but not
> limited to the purchase of, selling, distributing, or receiving payment for
> tickets for any political fundraiser, political meeting, or other political
> event.
>        (3) Soliciting, planning the solicitation of, or
> preparing any document or report regarding any thing of value intended as a
> campaign contribution.
>        (4) Planning, conducting, or participating in a
> public opinion poll in connection with a campaign for elective office or on
> behalf of a political organization for political purposes or for or against
> any referendum question.
>        (5) Surveying or gathering information from potential
> connection with a campaign for elective office or on behalf of a political
> organization for political purposes or for or against any referendum
> question.
>        (6) Assisting at the polls on election day on behalf
> of any political organization or candidate for elective office or for or
> against any referendum question.
>        (7) Soliciting votes on behalf of a candidate for
> elective office or a political organization or for or against any
> referendum question or helping in an effort to get voters to the polls.
>        (8) Initiating for circulation, preparing,
> circulating, reviewing, or filing any petition on behalf of a candidate for
> elective office or for or against any referendum question.
>        (9) Making contributions on behalf of any candidate
> for elective office in that capacity or in connection with a campaign for
> elective office.
>        (10) Preparing or reviewing responses to candidate
> questionnaires in connection with a campaign for elective office or on
> behalf of a political organization for political purposes.
>
> -None of these really fit, if Rosales was basically sending email
> thanking people for showing up at a City Council meeting.
>
>        (11) Distributing, preparing for distribution, or
> mailing campaign literature, campaign signs, or other campaign material on
> behalf of any candidate for elective office or for or against any
> referendum question.
>
> -But a city council vote isn't a referendum, and that's significant.
>
>        (12) Campaigning for any elective office or for or
> against any referendum question.
>        (13) Managing or working on a campaign for elective
> office or for or against any referendum question.
>        (14) Serving as a delegate, alternate, or proxy to a
> political party convention.
>        (15) Participating in any recount or challenge to the
> outcome of any election, except to the extent that under subsection (d) of
> Section 6 of Article IV of the Illinois Constitution each house of the
> General Assembly shall judge the elections, returns, and qualifications of
> its members.
>
> - Nope, I don't think the emails would be considered electioneering.
>
> Look, I don't mean to be patronizing, but Springfield is my hometown
> and I have a pretty good idea of what kind of behavior motivated
> the state ethics act.  It used to be common for employees in some
> parts of state government to be pressured to make campaign
> contributions (as part of keeping their jobs).  Some state workers
> would spend a good chunk of their time on political campaigns,
> rather than doing their job.  A mid-level university employee sending
> emails about a city council meeting doesn't even register on that
> scale.
>
> -- Wendy
>
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> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:14:24PM -0500, John Bambenek wrote:
> > Read the Academic Staff handbook, for one. It's clear there. That's a
> > much less invidious violation than the one that's currently at hand.
> >
> > The incident was reported quietly and privately. He's now violated 5
> > ILCS 430/15-5
> >
> > There will be an accounting for this.
> >
> > That's all I have to say on the matter now.
> >
> > On 10/9/06, Wendy Edwards <wedwards at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > >Wait a second ... I just got done with my state ethics training,
> > >and I actually paid attention to it.  AFAIK, Rosales was not
> > >electioneering, and he wasn't campaigning for or against a
> > >referendum.  So it sounds like the worst thing he was doing was
> > >using his email for personal stuff, which the University apparently
> > >allows to a reasonable extent.
> > >
> > >-- Wendy
> > >
> > >
> > >n Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:20:51PM -0500, John Bambenek wrote:
> > >> 1) Girargo Rosales broke the law.
> > >> 2) He broke it again by going public with it. An issue I'm taking up
> > >> with the University Ethics office right now.  Thanks for letting me
> > >> know.
> > >>
> > >> Rosales has his own email to conduct political business in the
> > >> capacity of City of Champaign Council... the taxpayers of this state
> > >> don't pay for his time as Assistant Dean of Students... the office
> > >> responsible for enforcing these rules... so he can do business as a
> > >> city councilman.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for letting me know.
> > >>
> > >> On 10/9/06, Brian Dolinar <briandolinar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >I personally don't read the OBO at all
> > >> >not last month's, not 6 months ago.
> > >> >Beyond the political
> > >> >its poorly written and edited
> > >> >maybe a notch above Booze Nooz.
> > >> >
> > >> >We at the Public i newspaper refuse to run smear campaigns
> > >> >against minors because of ethical and libel issues.
> > >> >This came up recently with Champaign Police Chief Finney's
> > >> >son getting busted with weed in the local middle school.
> > >> >We did not publish the kid's face or name.
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm sure we'll have plenty reason soon enough
> > >> >to call out the kind of witchhunting that people like yourself
> > >> >engage in.
> > >> >
> > >> >For example, your ratting on Giraldo Rosales
> > >> >for prohibiting discrimination against the poor.
> > >> >
> > >> >Thats right peaceniks -
> > >> >Bambi is pro-discrimination
> > >> >and has recently informed several sources that
> > >> >Giraldo was sending thank yous
> > >> >on U of I company time
> > >> >to those who came out to fight
> > >> >the right wing republican
> > >> >assault on the poor
> > >> >led by Pirok et al.
> > >> >
> > >> >Peace, BD
> > >> >
> > >> >On 10/9/06, John Bambenek <jcb.blog at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Perhaps before everyone jumps up in arms about this picture, you might
> > >> >> want to note the following:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It was from **April**.  Isn't 6 months later a little late?
> > >> >> Leo is in Beijing now.  He's gone.
> > >> >> The new staff of the OBO doesn't use that website anymore AFAIK
> > >> >> When's the last time you apologized for... well anything you've done?
> > >> >> The last time you made it personal instead of political? The last time
> > >> >> you slandered/libeled anyone? The last time you relished in physical
> > >> >> violence against an "opponent"
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Leo's gone... find another horse to flog.
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> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> >Brian Dolinar, Ph.D.
> > >> >303 W. Locust St.
> > >> >Urbana, IL 61801
> > >> >briandolinar at gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> j
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