[Peace-discuss] Chomsky et al.

[C. G. Estabrook]

"The Greens have done better in Germany" because as a party they moved 
substantially to the right, away from their popular base, until they 
were acceptable to the parties of government, which are to the right of 
the populace, if not so much so in Germany as in the US.  That was the 
program of the faction of the German Greens called the "Realos," the 
best known member of which is the Foreign Minister, Jokscha Fischer, who 
dines out on being a "youthful radical" (which seems to mean that he 
once punched a cop), while compiling a record in office of supporting 
American imperialism.  --CGE


Bob Illyes wrote:
> I always suspected Chomsky was a no-solution guy. And yes, I have
> considered your mole theory, Chuck. Last summer, I met someone
> who had withdrawn from the NYC anti-war crowd because it spent
> much of its energy on infighting. "About what", I asked. "About
> who was in charge", she said, saying that they even got into
> fist-fights..... It's so easy to set up this sort of thing that
> the other side would be fools not to take advantage of it. But
> we don't have to take the hook.
> 
> Consider that it is the intention of the other side to convince
> us that we can do nothing. This, in my opinion, is how they win.
> 
> A consensus-based group is a sitting duck. A single mole can bring
> it down. For this reason, and because there are good reasons for
> preferring a super-majority, I'm partial to 2/3 or 3/4. It is
> said that the Greens have done better in Germany than here because
> the German Greens do not use consensus.
> 
> Bob
> 
> (Incidentally, following Chuck's lead with moles, I see that I used
> 3 different animal metaphors. Does anyone want to go for 4?)
> 
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