[Peace-discuss] Ron Paul supports Democratic leadership, votes twice against Kucinich impeachment bill

[Morton K. Brussel]

I'm guessing(!) that Carl favors Paul over Kucinich(?) because of the  
abortion issue. Paul is anti-"choice"; Kucinich is not.

--mkb

On Nov 8, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:

> Well, THAT's a blunt instrument, and as such not really accurate.
>
> But what about the issue of Kucinich vs Paul?  It's pretty clear,  
> and not just from this example,
> that Kucinich is head and shoulders more worthy of support from an  
> anti-racist anti-war movement
> interested in promoting principles, especially one with any hint of  
> social justice (e.g. folks
> interested in universal healthcare, public assistance for the poor,  
> things like that.)
>
> I can see the logic of a strategy like voting for Ron Paul to  
> maximize disruption in the GOP, but
> I think we'd more likely outsmart ourselves.  We don't have the  
> numbers or the discipline to
> really strategize effectively.  Even if we did, what message do we  
> send to the Democrats (who may
> win) with decreasing support for Kucinich?
>
> Ricky
>
> --- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>> So Ron Paul is exposed as a Democratic Party hack on the issue of
>> Cheney's impeachment -- i.e., a hack to that Democratic Party  
>> leadership
>> whose appropriations for the war (with "timetables," of course)  
>> you've
>> supported throughout the year...?  --CGE
>>
>>
>> Robert Naiman wrote:
>>> Kucinich's impeachment bill against Cheney was voted twice on in the
>>> House today.
>>>
>>> The Democratic leadership first tried to kill debate by tabling the
>>> Kucinich bill. This failed, because a substantial minority of
>>> Democrats was supported by a majority of Republicans in opposing the
>>> Democratic leadership motion to table. Ron Paul voted with the
>>> Democratic leadership and against both the Kucinich Democratic bloc
>>> and the Republican majority to kill debate.
>>>
>>> Then the Democratic leadership sent the bill to die - at least so  
>>> they
>>> hope - at the Judiciary committee. This vote was almost entirely on
>>> party lines. Overwhelmingly, Democrats voted to send the bill to
>>> committee. Only 4 Democrats voted with Kucinich not to send the bill
>>> to committee: Filner, Kaptur, Towns and Waters.
>>>
>>> Conversely, Republicans voted overwhelmingly against killing the  
>>> bill
>>> by sending it to committee. Only 4 Republicans voted with the
>>> Democratic leadership to kill the Cheney impeachment bill.
>>>
>>> Who were those four Republicans? Well, one of them was Ron Paul.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul - Democratic Party Hack.
>>>
>>> 1st vote:
>>> http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1037.xml
>>>
>>> 2nd vote:
>>> http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1039.xml
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