[Peace-discuss] Tuesday, Annual Township Meeting, April 8, 2008 - arrive early

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Carl,
  A couple of people told me that Johnson wasn't running again, which I hadn't heard prior and which surprised me at the time, but which I had no reason to doubt. But either way, it was my impression that folks didn't think the referendum was the place to educate voters -- quite the opposite, in fact, even questioning its legality -- and that does seem to account for the difference when the final vote came around. I agree w/ Karen that changing the wording to remove those would have been advisable, if it had been permitted at the 11th hour, and we'll certainly know better next time. Yes, definitely a learning experience.
   
  Interesting and amazing that Champaign had NO problems w/ transparency, while Urbana didn't want it!
   --Jenifer 

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
  This smacks a bit of the usual liberal nonsense that we shouldn't tell the 
ignorant proles what we really think. The ignorance on display is that "neither 
Bush nor Johnson would be running in November" -- of course Johnson is running, 
and McCain has embraced Bush's policies, even on torture, which he formerly 
forswore.

I think there's also some ignorance here about what our congressional 
representative's position on the issue actually is -- which the proposed 
referendum meant gently to dispel...

Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> 
> ... The torture thing initially got 3/5 of those voting, which allowed it to
> be discussed further, then failed to get even the simple majority needed for
> placement on the ballot (go figure) and therefore will NOT appear as a
> referendum item in November (it probably would have made it on if Bush and
> Johnson hadn't been named specifically -- Jim Phillips said it was too much
> like polliticking, even tho' neither Bush nor Johnson would be running in
> November -- and that may have moved some to change their final vote)...


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