[Peace-discuss] making progress on transparency in Urbana

[John W.]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

>  And you seem to be suggesting that you fulfill that role in Urbana, while
> Mayor Prussing has NEVER made ANY effort to provide ANY light....which is
> patently ridiculous on its face.  Of course there could always be MORE
> light, but I don't think you'll find a politician on this planet who wants
> to be under microscopic scrutiny 100% of the time.  Again, with the
> advantage of some perspective, I know that no matter WHAT a politician does,
> a significant percentage of the populace is going to be pissed off at
> him/her.
>
> wow!...
>
> I was suggesting that perhaps "bitching" does not have much "utility"
> unless one at last actually "does something" (provide light).
>
> I don't suppose that I have any particular ability.
> But I do notice that lack of ability doesn't seem to disqualify
> anyone from getting involved in opposing this intrusive and authoritarian
> local government in Urbana and trying to improve the situation
> in what ever ways possible.
>

Precisely.  :-)




> John W. wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>
>  Texas is a big and diverse state and they do have more ability in some
>> parts of the state than in others.
>> Consider that Dr. Ron Paul has been reelected 10 times in his
>> congressional district in Texas even
>> though the Bush gang has supported his opponents to try and root him out.
>>
>> Unfortunately that Texas commenter was unregistered.  I don't have any way
>> to help you take the point up
>> with her directly other than you can go to the website
>> http://www.liberty4urbana.com and post a
>> comment and maybe she will come back and read it.  There are several other
>> comments there now
>> that you could spar words with if you like.
>>
>
> Not at all important.
>
>
>
>> Zimbabwe just seems far enough away... Mugabe is 84, Prussing is only 67
>> or 68 years old.
>>
>> Apparently you don't live in Urbana.  There are some good things about
>> Urbana
>> and some things that are intolerable.
>>
>
> Oh, sure, they're "gun grabbers" and a "nanny state".  But I have the
> advantage of perspective.   I've lived other places, and seen how infinitely
> worse it is there.  I grew up on the south side of Chicago during Daley
> Sr.'s tenure, for God's sake.  And as I said, even here in Champaign the
> city government is quite a bit worse.
>
>
>
>> I dont really know mjerryfuerst but I do notice that he likes to say that
>> Urbana is Bozo.  I am not sure what he has done other than "bitch", as you
>> say.
>>
>
> That's all he does.
>
>
>
>> There is a place for "bitching".  But while Cursing the darkness may have
>> some utility,
>> that utility diminishes rapidly if one never makes the effort to provide
>> any light.
>>
>
> And you seem to be suggesting that you fulfill that role in Urbana, while
> Mayor Prussing has NEVER made ANY effort to provide ANY light....which is
> patently ridiculous on its face.  Of course there could always be MORE
> light, but I don't think you'll find a politician on this planet who wants
> to be under microscopic scrutiny 100% of the time.  Again, with the
> advantage of some perspective, I know that no matter WHAT a politician does,
> a significant percentage of the populace is going to be pissed off at
> him/her.
>
>
>
>>  John W. wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>>
>>  I hear there's an ambassador slot available in Zimbabwe.  She and Robert
>>> Mugabe should get along well.
>>>
>>
>> Now THERE'S an apt comparison.  Yes, indeed.
>>
>> Laurie took the words right out of my mouth.  That one commenter of yours,
>> Wayne, was all puffed up with pride because in Texas they know how to get
>> rid of bad politicians.  Yeah, they sure do.
>>
>> I reiterate, you citizens of Urbana apparently don't know when you have it
>> good.  In this thread you've been reminding me of Micheal Fuerst, or
>> whatever his name is.  The perennial bitcher about Urbana.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
>>>
>>>  I guess we should do what they do in TX  where they just booted their
>>> Governor out and into the Presidency for 8 years because he was such a bad
>>> governor.  Maybe the people of Urbana can as one of their requests to Obama
>>> get him to appoint her to some federal position in a location that keeps her
>>> far from Urbana. Do you think!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [
>>> mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net<peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *E. Wayne Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:55 PM
>>> *To:* Neil Parthun
>>> *Cc:* Peace-discuss Discuss
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] making progress on transparency in Urbana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a comment about HRH received at my blog ---
>>>
>>> Obviously the mayor of your town allows her
>>> emotional feelings to control her mouth and her actions. As an american
>>> citizen,
>>> she should continue to work for ALL of the people in her town as their
>>> duly
>>> elected "public servant" and stop discussing the few that she is
>>> perturbed with.
>>> I think it's certainly time to get a new mayor who doesn't express
>>> disapproval
>>> with the democratic process of government in which she is supposed to
>>> serve.
>>> Just vote her out next time, and she will still blame the ones in which
>>> she blamed
>>> on this video, as she will apparently not take any accountability
>>> herself.
>>> Hey mayor, just what is wrong with "transparency" if you have nothing to
>>> hide?
>>> As we say here in Tx....Just boot her out next time around!
>>> Karla in Tx
>>>
>>>
>>> E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> Posted to "Digg" --
>>>
>>> http://digg.com/politics/Local_Mayor_Loses_Her_Cool_over_Transparency_Resolution
>>>
>>> Neil Parthun wrote:
>>>
>>> Lulz.  That was pretty good quality hilariousness from our illustrious
>>> Mayor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Not on the internet!" authoritarian interjections while saying she
>>> objects to being called authoritarian.  Mayor Prussing, methinks thou dost
>>> protest too much.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Live without dead time,
>>>
>>>      Neil
>>>
>>>
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