[Peace-discuss] making progress on transparency in Urbana
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Fri Dec 19 17:24:35 CST 2008
Thanks for the Encouragement!
John W. wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag
> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>
>> And you seem to be suggesting that you fulfill that role in
>> Urbana, while Mayor Prussing has NEVER made ANY effort to provide
>> ANY light....which is patently ridiculous on its face. Of course
>> there could always be MORE light, but I don't think you'll find a
>> politician on this planet who wants to be under microscopic
>> scrutiny 100% of the time. Again, with the advantage of some
>> perspective, I know that no matter WHAT a politician does, a
>> significant percentage of the populace is going to be pissed off
>> at him/her.
> wow!...
>
> I was suggesting that perhaps "bitching" does not have much "utility"
> unless one at last actually "does something" (provide light).
>
> I don't suppose that I have any particular ability.
> But I do notice that lack of ability doesn't seem to disqualify
> anyone from getting involved in opposing this intrusive and
> authoritarian
> local government in Urbana and trying to improve the situation
> in what ever ways possible.
>
>
> Precisely. :-)
>
>
>
>
> John W. wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag
>> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>>
>> Texas is a big and diverse state and they do have more
>> ability in some parts of the state than in others.
>> Consider that Dr. Ron Paul has been reelected 10 times in his
>> congressional district in Texas even
>> though the Bush gang has supported his opponents to try and
>> root him out.
>>
>> Unfortunately that Texas commenter was unregistered. I don't
>> have any way to help you take the point up
>> with her directly other than you can go to the website
>> http://www.liberty4urbana.com and post a
>> comment and maybe she will come back and read it. There are
>> several other comments there now
>> that you could spar words with if you like.
>>
>>
>> Not at all important.
>>
>>
>>
>> Zimbabwe just seems far enough away... Mugabe is 84, Prussing
>> is only 67 or 68 years old.
>>
>> Apparently you don't live in Urbana. There are some good
>> things about Urbana
>> and some things that are intolerable.
>>
>>
>> Oh, sure, they're "gun grabbers" and a "nanny state". But I have
>> the advantage of perspective. I've lived other places, and seen
>> how infinitely worse it is there. I grew up on the south side of
>> Chicago during Daley Sr.'s tenure, for God's sake. And as I
>> said, even here in Champaign the city government is quite a bit
>> worse.
>>
>>
>>
>> I dont really know mjerryfuerst but I do notice that he likes
>> to say that
>> Urbana is Bozo. I am not sure what he has done other than
>> "bitch", as you say.
>>
>>
>> That's all he does.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a place for "bitching". But while Cursing the
>> darkness may have some utility,
>> that utility diminishes rapidly if one never makes the effort
>> to provide any light.
>>
>>
>> And you seem to be suggesting that you fulfill that role in
>> Urbana, while Mayor Prussing has NEVER made ANY effort to provide
>> ANY light....which is patently ridiculous on its face. Of course
>> there could always be MORE light, but I don't think you'll find a
>> politician on this planet who wants to be under microscopic
>> scrutiny 100% of the time. Again, with the advantage of some
>> perspective, I know that no matter WHAT a politician does, a
>> significant percentage of the populace is going to be pissed off
>> at him/her.
>>
>>
>>
>> John W. wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM, E. Wayne Johnson
>>> <ewj at pigs.ag <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hear there's an ambassador slot available in
>>> Zimbabwe. She and Robert Mugabe should get along well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now THERE'S an apt comparison. Yes, indeed.
>>>
>>> Laurie took the words right out of my mouth. That one
>>> commenter of yours, Wayne, was all puffed up with pride
>>> because in Texas they know how to get rid of bad
>>> politicians. Yeah, they sure do.
>>>
>>> I reiterate, you citizens of Urbana apparently don't know
>>> when you have it good. In this thread you've been reminding
>>> me of Micheal Fuerst, or whatever his name is. The
>>> perennial bitcher about Urbana.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess we should do what they do in TX where they
>>>> just booted their Governor out and into the Presidency
>>>> for 8 years because he was such a bad governor. Maybe
>>>> the people of Urbana can as one of their requests to
>>>> Obama get him to appoint her to some federal position
>>>> in a location that keeps her far from Urbana. Do you think!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>>>> <mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net>
>>>> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *E. Wayne Johnson
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:55 PM
>>>> *To:* Neil Parthun
>>>> *Cc:* Peace-discuss Discuss
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] making progress on
>>>> transparency in Urbana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is a comment about HRH received at my blog ---
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the mayor of your town allows her
>>>> emotional feelings to control her mouth and her
>>>> actions. As an american citizen,
>>>> she should continue to work for ALL of the people in
>>>> her town as their duly
>>>> elected "public servant" and stop discussing the few
>>>> that she is perturbed with.
>>>> I think it's certainly time to get a new mayor who
>>>> doesn't express disapproval
>>>> with the democratic process of government in which she
>>>> is supposed to serve.
>>>> Just vote her out next time, and she will still blame
>>>> the ones in which she blamed
>>>> on this video, as she will apparently not take any
>>>> accountability herself.
>>>> Hey mayor, just what is wrong with "transparency" if
>>>> you have nothing to hide?
>>>> As we say here in Tx....Just boot her out next time around!
>>>> Karla in Tx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Posted to "Digg" --
>>>> http://digg.com/politics/Local_Mayor_Loses_Her_Cool_over_Transparency_Resolution
>>>>
>>>> Neil Parthun wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lulz. That was pretty good quality hilariousness from
>>>> our illustrious Mayor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Not on the internet!" authoritarian interjections
>>>> while saying she objects to being called authoritarian.
>>>> Mayor Prussing, methinks thou dost protest too much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Live without dead time,
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>
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