[Peace-discuss] Outrageous and un-American

[Stuart Levy]

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 05:33:49AM -0500, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> Although I am not quite sure myself what "un-American" is,
> and whether or not (un-American)-ism is per se truly good or bad,
> the FISA legislation is certainly outrageous and unconstitutional to me.
>
> Although it ought to be frankly obvious to any sane person that the FISA 
> legislation violates
> not only the 4th amendment  but also Article 1 Section 9, the issue is
> certainly one for the courts to decide,/ mene, mene, tekel, upharsin/.

We can only hope that too much weight hasn't already been placed
on the wrong side of the courts' scales...

(Though the judgement just this week that the Justice Dept. must
proceed with first priority on Guantanamo detainees' cases
  http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/43481.html
is more encouraging news than I'd expected to see)

> I also thought it was a good thing for the list to see this even though it
> subjected every one to a obviously auto-generated form-letter email,
> it provides a possible vehicle for redirection of anger.

Absolutely -- thank you for passing it along to us all!

> The idea of Impeach Them All has a lot going for it.
> While recognizing the actual denotation of impeach as "impede" and its 
> application as "accuse",
> note that a peach has "fuzz" on it, and a tarring and feathering seems to 
> be well earned,
> and it would be...er...just peachy.


Public humiliation is powerful.  Joseph McCarthy himself didn't survive it long.

>
>
>
> Walter Pituc wrote:
>> Indeed, we need to fight back!
>>
>> -Walter Pituc
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:04 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag 
>> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Friend,
>>
>>     Cowed by the Bush administration's pre-election scare tactics, the
>>     Senate passed privacy-stealing FISA legislation undermining your
>>     Fourth Amendment rights.
>>
>>     It's outrageous, unconstitutional and un-American. That's why the
>>     ACLU is prepared to challenge this law the moment George Bush
>>     signs it -- and you can rest assured, they'll be meeting our
>>     lawyers in court.
>>
>>     The ACLU's lawsuit will send a powerful message to those in
>>     Congress who played it safe when they had the opportunity to
>>     defend the Constitution.
>>
>>     In addition, the ACLU will be taking out a full-page ad in a major
>>     national newspaper announcing their lawsuit and expressing outrage
>>     at this abandonment of our Constitutional principles.  Their goal
>>     is to run an ad containing the names of tens of thousands of
>>     Americans who believe in the Constitution and want Congress to
>>     hear us loud and clear: next time, stand up for our rights.
>>
>>     You can sign your name to the ACLU's ad by visiting:
>>
>>     http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/fisaad
>>     
>> <http://action.firedoglake.com/page/ic/q6zhqesgvkqbnp/ShVXUgZLFRsDWkNUUAE%253D>
>>
>>
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