[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Now Obama's in, is anti-war anti-racism activism out?

[Morton K. Brussel]

I wasn't going to respond of Neil's message, because it seemed to me  
the very essence of puerility.
Some other adjective needs to be found for Carl's black views.
--mkb


On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:11 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Yes, bases well covered; and I agree that those base paths will get  
> a work-out.
>
> As to your last paragraph, I'll repeat Dennis Perrin's remark that  
> I posted a couple of days ago:
>
> "I keep hearing how the 'left' and liberals in general are gonna  
> put flame to his feet after he takes office.  And how, exactly, is  
> that gonna work? There's no mass movement in this country, nothing  
> like FDR faced in 1933. Obama already sold out his supporters over  
> FISA, not that most cared all that much or did anything about it.  
> And with the right wing acting crazy toward him, which will become  
> a burning cottage industry over the next four years, liberals will  
> be defending his administration, much like they did Clinton's --  
> only this time, I think it'll be even more emotional. I do think  
> that Obama will deliver on his promises to Wall Street, the  
> military, and police departments around the nation. And if I was an  
> Afghan or Pakistani, I would hope that Obama wouldn't deliver on  
> his promises to me."  --CGE
>
>
> Neil Parthun wrote:
>> I'd hope that AWARE and others can find it within themselves to  
>> criticize the
>> pro-war policies and growing belligerence of the Obama  
>> administration.
>> But let's help the Democratic apologists come up with some ideas...
>> How about:
>> -Your criticisms will only help the Republicans in 2012. -Give him  
>> time. -The
>> Democrats can't move left so quickly and expect to keep popular  
>> support. -We
>> must defend Obama against the Right Wing attacks if we have to  
>> have any
>> chance of getting our leftist goals. -Criticizing the Democrats  
>> will cause
>> them to lose their majorities in Congress and put the greater evil  
>> into power
>> -Obama just said that stuff to get elected and the Republicans are  
>> worse.
>> So, let's be happy we have a warmonger with a D around his name  
>> because it
>> will be comparatively better than a warmonger with an R around his  
>> name. -People who criticize Obama and the Dems must want the  
>> Republicans to win
>> Did I cover all the bases?
>> We got what the apologists wanted -- an Obama presidency -- let's  
>> start lighting the fire under his ass to press him because what  
>> he's stated as his
>> policies are damn scary, dangerous and a continuation of America's  
>> imperial
>> power.
>
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