[Peace-discuss] Fw: Why Vote?

Jenifer Cartwright jencart13 at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 8 17:50:30 CDT 2008


Yeah, was being ironic again. And also just pointing out (again) the how rules are vastly different for the US and for other nations -- the US can criticise others' behavior (even when parallels are soooo obvious), intervene in others' affairs, monitor others' elections. The idea that others could monitor US elections would be seen as ludicrous (which is why I proposed it). 
 --Jenifer

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET> wrote:

From: LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Why Vote?
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com, peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM








Quite possibly because Amerikans would view this as “foreign meddling”, unlike when we insist on it or do it in other nations, an intrusion into our sacrosanct “sovereignty”, unlike when we manipulate and manage other nation’s elections, and an attempt to undermine the Amerikan way.  Besides, what makes you so sure that Amerikans want “free” and “fair” elections, would accept and do anything about it if these monitors found the elections not to be “free” and/or “fair”, and or would allow the monitors free and complete unfettered access to all the aspects and components of the process?  What would preclude the monitors from becoming like the embedded reporters in Iraq who were allowed to see only what the military wanted them to see?  
 
Even before elections became the high tech affairs that they now are, Amerikan officials have been manipulating them here and abroad through more obvious traditional methods. The general public turned a blind eye or were unconcerned; now that high tech elections and manipulations have come into play, the manipulations are more sophisticated and even less obvious – better hidden in the complexities of technology that many of the public do not understand and try to avoid dealing with.  They are even less likely to be upset or concerned with achieving actual “free and fair” elections as long as the illusion and appearance of “free and fair” elections is not destroyed.
 
But I assume that you were not proposing this seriously but as a rhetorical and ironical suggestion.
 



From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Jenifer Cartwright
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:52 AM
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Here's an idea whose time has come: Why don't other countries monitor OUR elections to be sure they're free and fair??

 --Jenifer






--- On Mon, 9/8/08, Sinder, Dale R  wrote:
 This will curl your toes:   http://www.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/ 
 


      
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