[Peace-discuss] vox populi

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Lord, I hope y're right, Wayne. I'd say maybe a couple of reps were swayed by our collective voice to vote w/ Kucinich, but really, the deal-breaker was those voting w/ the conservative Repubs (e g Tim Johnson) -- and their defection was blamed by irate Bush Repubs on the neg speech by Pelosi (as if).
 --Jenifer


--- On Tue, 9/30/08, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] vox populi
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
Cc: republican-637 at meetup.com, ronpaul-1884 at meetup.com, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 1:43 PM


By the voice of the people I meant there were thousands of phone calls and 
emails to congressmen and they were overwhelmingly negative against the bailout.
I would say that voice had some effect.

Ninety-Four Democrats voted against it, accounting for 40% of the Nays.  For which I am thankful.

Marcy Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich were particularly eloquent against the bailout.

Congressmen Blunt and Boehner (both Republicans) joined with Pelosi and tried to bully it through.

It was a bi-partisan effort (i.e., both Stupid AND Evil, as they say), while the opposition to the bailout is truly non-partisan.

The market is recovering somewhat today...  But of course,  prices of over-valued assets like houses are going to go down.

Jenifer Cartwright wrote: 





No, it's called PYA (protect yr ass-ets). 
 
And on the subject of the bailout: interesting that the conservative Repubs were the ones responsible for the bailout's failing to pass the house... which suggests that vox populi had essentially no effect (as usual), AND that the bill that does pass will remove some of the restrictions, not add more of the ones we want in place. Baaaad times...   
 --Jenifer

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] vox populi
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com, republican-637 at meetup.com, ronpaul-1884 at meetup.com, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:42 PM





Yeah, I believe it's called a strike.

 Ricky


"Only those who do nothing make no mistakes." - Peter Kropotkin 




----- Original Message ----
From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
To: republican-637 at meetup.com; ronpaul-1884 at meetup.com; Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:16:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] vox populi






Yikes! Yes!! Wow, no wonder the market is plunging...
 --Jenifer

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
Subject: [Peace-discuss] vox populi
To: republican-637 at meetup.com, ronpaul-1884 at meetup.com, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 12:58 PM

Bailout Fails!!!!

D 141 - 94
R  65 - 133

total 207-226


Thanks to all who helped!


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