FW: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous ('murder music' as hate speech)

[C. G. Estabrook]

I hope so.


John W. wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:24 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
> 
> So those who contact the media outlets who broadcast Amy Goodman and demand
> that she be taken off the air would NOT be advocating the banning of [her]
> free speech?
> 
> I think they would, and I'd object to it.
> 
> 
> Oxford English Dictionary, Carl.  "Banning".
> 
> If you own/run a restaurant, Carl, and I request that you require your 
> employees to wash their hands before preparing my food or else I will not be
> able to patronize your restaurant in the future, have I "banned" the "right
> to unclean hands"?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John W. wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:57 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>> wrote:
> 
> Jenifer--
> 
> You seem to suggest that you were not "advocating the 'banning of free
> speech.'"
> 
> On Wed Aug 12 you forwarded to the list
>> 
>> ...It's time to get Lou Dobbs and his hate speech off the air. ...CALL NOW
>> AND DEMAND LOU DOBBS BE TAKEN OFF THE AIR
> 
> Why isn't that "advocating the banning of [Lou Dobbs'] free speech"?
> 
> Regards, CGE
> 
> 
> Maybe you should look up "banning" in your Oxford English Dictionary, Carl.
> 
> If Jenifer was suggesting (as she was NOT) that we call our state legislators
> and ask them to make it a criminal offense for a radio or TV station or web
> site to broadcast the words of Lou Dobbs, that would be "advocating the
> banning of free speech".
> 
> If, on the other hand, Jenifer was suggesting (as she was) that we contact
> the media outlets who broadcast Lou Dobbs and make known our own private,
> personal displeasure at the content of his speech and at anyone who would be
> a party to such drivel, that is NOT "advocating the banning of free speech".
> 
> What deep-seated psychological complex makes you feel, Carl, that you must
> ALWAYS have the last word?
> 
> John Wason
> 
> 
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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> 
> Well said, Ron. Also a perfect example of the influence these shock jockeys
> have on folks, even those on this list. The MO is 1) deliberately
> misinterpret what's been said 2) lie about what's been said 3) go on the
> attack 4) repeat 1-3 ad infinitum Think: accusing me of advocating the
> "banning free speech" Think: Limbaugh, Sarah Palin et al on "death panels" 
> Yeah, we're done here. --Jenifer
> 
> 
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