[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Saying nay to USG lies

[C. G. Estabrook]

 From <http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002783.html>:

This week Keith Olbermann had on former National Security Council staffer
Hillary Mann Leverett. In a deeply shocking maneuver, she told the truth about
the US, the mideast, and the incoming Obama administration:

     OLBERMANN: The other thing that will change, if not on the 20th then shortly
thereafter, is the identify of the secretary of state. And here is Hillary
Clinton coming in to the middle of this with a last name certainly that is, to
some degree, magical, influential at least in the Middle East. How is her
appointment going to shape Obama`s efforts for Middle East peace? And how will
it be received by both sides in the Middle East?

     LEVERETT: Her name is magical and influential to an extent in Israel. But
throughout many capitals in the Arab world, where I served at the US embassy in
Cairo and in the Gulf, there is a lot more skepticism that she is going to be
even handed. *There is considerable fear about the advisers that she is going to
bring with her, people like Martin Indyk or Dennis Ross, Ken Pollack, people
that I would call neo-conservative fellow travelers, people who brought us a
failed peace process between the Israelis and Palestinians by the end of the
Clinton term in 2000, people who cheered and championed the invasion of Iraq
under this administration.  There is a lot of fear and consternation that the
advisers, in particular, that Hillary Clinton is bringing with her are going to
make us long for the Bush days.*

C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> What [Martin Indyk] actually said was that nothing he said "should be taken
> as representing [Hillary Clinton's] views."
> 
> But I don't know why the quibble.  He is a Clintonoid creature, like 
> Holbrooke and Ross; Hillary Clinton is Obama's SOS; and Indyk is "among those
>  mentioned as a potential special envoy to the Middle East."
> 
> Are you trying to separate his views from Obama/Clinton?  No reason to think 
> it can be done.  Theirs are just as bad. --CGE
> 
> 
> Brussel wrote:
>> As I said, Indyk denied this, contradicting her.
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> 
>>> Amy Goodman explains, "He’s an adviser to Hillary Clinton, who was tapped
>>>  to be Obama’s Secretary of State, and is among those mentioned as a 
>>> potential special envoy to the Middle East."
>>>> Brussel wrote: Right. However, Indyk said he was not an advisor to the
>>>>  new administration (to be represented by State Department head Mme 
>>>> Clinton) --mkb On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:13 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>>>> Anyone who wishes to know about what the US and its chief client are 
>>>>> actually doing in the Mideast -- over against the lies of the USG and
>>>>>  the media -- should pull up today's Democracy Now! 
>>>>> http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/8/former_amb_martin_indyk_vs_author
>>>>>  There the Clintonoid apologist Martin Indyk, former US ambassador to
>>>>>  Israel (and adviser to the new administration) is made to look 
>>>>> criminally foolish by Norman Finkelstein. --CGE