[Peace-discuss] [Discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: Fw: What hath got rot?

Sat Mar 27 23:09:41 CDT 2010

one of the provisions seems to be that medicaid, i.e. free medical care 
will be provided to anyone under 150% of the poverty level. the biggest 
problems are how slowly some of the provisions go into effect and that 
it does not do much of anything to cut costs

laborhour wrote:
>  
> One of the original critiques on this listserve of the recent health 
> insurance reform bill was by David Johnson.  I won't go into details, 
> but take it from me, FW Johnson is far from well off, although he does 
> have a job that supplies health insurance.  I'm greatly disappointed 
> in the Democrats myself and feel they could have done much better, 
> although I will admit that there are a few things like the ban on 
> turning people down due to preexisting conditions that I like. 
>  However, I feel that Obama and the Dems in Congress wasted a year and 
> a ton of political capital that they could have used to fix the 
> economy so that more of us could have jobs that supply health insurance.
>
> I have to self-pay my union insurance now because of the lack of work. 
>  It's really expensive when you've been on unemployment since December 
> 2008.  The stimulus package was incredibly lame and I only had 30 days 
> work last year.  We need a WWII level effort to turn things around by 
> totally revamping our transportation, energy, education and healthcare 
> systems, but instead the Dems wasted a year and the momentum they had 
> after the 2008 election.  What a bunch of dumbasses!
>
> Right now I'm racking up massive co-payments at Carle because of an 
> abcess in my right lung.  Did they outlaw co-payments and deductibles? 
>  A lot of people with good insurance go bankrupt because of co-payments.
>
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> *From:* C. G. ESTABROOK <cge at shout.net>
> *To:* Marti Wilkinson <martiwilki at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tristan B <tristan.bunner at gmail.com>; JWJ C-U 
> <centralILJwJ at yahoogroups.com>; sf-core <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>; 
> Claudia Lennhoff <claudia at shout.net>; william gorrell 
> <laborhour at yahoo.com>; Jim Eyman <banjogramps at yahoo.com>; C-U Citzens 
> for Peace and Justice <discuss at lists.communitycourtwatch.org>; Damien 
> Mathew <dmathew at mailaps.org>; Dan Elgin ( 2nd e-mail ) 
> <danelgin at gmail.com>; Peace-discuss List 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; Bill Gorrell <laborer at mchsi.com>
> *Sent:* Sat, March 27, 2010 7:48:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] [Peace-discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: Fw: What 
> hath got rot?
>
> We all fit her description?  Lucky us.
>
>
> Marti Wilkinson wrote:
> > I don't see where Melodye was making any personal remarks directed 
> towards
> > any one individual so I'm simply commenting at this point to come to her
> > defense. If anything I feel that she is pointing out that many of 
> us, myself
> > included, come into these conversations/discussions with a degree of
> > privilege and that we can't always separate that from our activism. 
> In fact,
> > trying to do so actually can be more harmful than helpful. Overall, this
> > 'discussion' has been a good reminder for me as to why I removed my 
> name from
> > some of these listserves :D
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, C. G. ESTABROOK <cge at shout.net 
> <mailto:cge at shout.net> <mailto:cge at shout.net <mailto:cge at shout.net>>> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Don't be too hard on Ms. Rosales.  I think she thought that she was 
> making a political comment, however inappropriate it was.
> >
> >
> > Tristan B wrote:
> >
> > Can we keep personal conversations between whoever is part of them?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM, C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net 
> <mailto:cge at shout.net> <mailto:cge at shout.net <mailto:cge at shout.net>> 
> <mailto:cge at shout.net <mailto:cge at shout.net> <mailto:cge at shout.net 
> <mailto:cge at shout.net>>>> wrote:
> >
> > This is getting a bit creepy, Melodye.
> >
> > Am I to understand that someone emailed you with observations about 
> my net worth - and you posted them - because of things I'd written 
> about politics?
> >
> >
> >
> > Melodye Rosales wrote:
> >
> > Oops!  Did I say a quarter of a million?  I misspoke----someone 
> privately emailed to correct me------Correction to previous email:
> >
> > Silly me----I meant to say, more than a half-million (conservative 
> estimate) in C-U property alone ----add to that personal assets, 
> medical insurance packages from the University times two, University 
> pension packages times two----  So, I guess that makes their combined 
> package putting them in the (or close to---or above) millionaires?
> >
> > just clarifying...
>
>
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