[Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [lbo-talk] the communitarian case for drones]

[John W.]

All right, I give up.  What's a "communitarian"?



On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Stuart Levy <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote:



> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 06:36:07PM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> > Search Etzioni's websites, I suppose. He's been saying this nonsense for
> a
> > while. Doug just got hit with some of it. I'll ask him if you like.
>
> Wow.  Do you think Amitai Etzioni means to be serious here??
> The language is so pat ["everyone is entitled but..."],
> it sounds as though he's setting up a straw man
> for parody.  This could come from the Onion.
>
> > Stuart Levy wrote:
> >> Wow -- love this bit: "everyone is entitled to human rights, but..."
> >> Where are the web sites referred to?  "we provide a blow by blow
> response,
> >> here" etc.?
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 05:18:26PM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> >>> {Doug Henwood of Left Business Observer treats some academic dreck with
> >>> the degree of respect it deserves.  --CGE}
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [I always hated this communitarian shit, but this takes the cake. For
> >>> some reason this asshole added me to his email list.]
> >>>
> >>> From: Amitai Etzioni <icps at GWU.EDU>
> >>> Date: March 30, 2010 5:03:51 PM EDT
> >>> To: COMNET at HERMES.GWU.EDU
> >>> Subject: The case for drones. Comments please.
> >>> Reply-To: Amitai Etzioni <icps at GWU.EDU>
> >>>
> >>> Jane Mayer made the liberal case against drones in The New Yorker
> >>> (October 26, 2009). We provide a blow by blow response here and discuss
> >>> the issue on Talk of the Nation, here. Everyone is entitled to human
> >>> rights, but we cannot wait for terrorists to strike before we go after
> >>> them. And, although little known, the US military has a carefully
> crafted
> >>> procedure for determining which drone strikes are allowed and which
> would
> >>> cause too much collateral damage.
> >>>
> >>> The onus for avoiding collateral damage altogether is on the
> terrorists.
> >>> They have to stop exploiting their status as civilians, stop using
> >>> civilians as human shields, and homes--as headquarters, as locations to
> >>> store ammunition and for snipers to ply their deadly trade. (For more,
> >>> see Security First: For a Muscular, Moral Foreign Policy [Yale 2007]
> and
> >>> our website.)
> >>> --
> >>> Amitai Etzioni
> >>> University Professor
> >>> The George Washington University
> >>> 1922 F St NW, Rm 413
> >>> Washington, DC 20052
> >>> ph: 202.994.8190
> >>> fax: 202.9941606
>

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