[Peace-discuss] Letter submitted to DI

[C. G. Estabrook]

Jenifer--

Maybe I misunderstand you - I can't believe I've got it right - but are you 
actually describing the US-backed Israeli policy toward the Palestinians as 
"containment out of fear/for security reasons"?

If the US/Israeli propaganda systems can convince American liberals of that, 
they have nothing to worry about. CGE


On 11/2/10 1:56 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> David G,
> Yikes! Yes, there is heightened emotion and ramped-up rhetoric on both sides 
> -- the occupied population -- "insurrectionists" -- are the good guys -- 
> heroes! -- only in reference to 1776 when the colonists were the former, 
> opposing British rule... but PLEASE acknowledge that there is a HUGE HUGE HUGE 
> difference betw containment out of fear/for security reasons (how ever 
> ill-conceived the intent and cruel the result), and extermination of a 
> population to destroy a culture and preserve a "master race." You need to 
> re-visit that accusation and reword yr letter.
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Tue, 11/2/10, David Green /<davegreen84 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Letter submitted to DI
>     To: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "ASA"
>     <asa.uiuc at gmail.com>, "Irfan Ahmad" <isahmad at uiuc.edu>, "Lina ASA"
>     <lelbesh2 at uiuc.edu>, "ASA" <asa.uiuc at gmail.com>, "Sadia Bekal"
>     <sbekal at uiuc.edu>, "CAIR" <hrahman2 at uiuc.edu>, "CAN" <can.uiuc at gmail.com>,
>     "ISO" <iso.champaign at gmail.com>, "Aisha Sobh" <asobh at uiuc.edu>, "STOP"
>     <trevaellison at gmail.com>
>     Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 12:27 PM
>
>     On November 1st, Students for Justice in Palestine hosted a courageous
>     young Israeli woman at Noyes Lab who has refused to serve in the Israeli
>     occupying army. It was reported at the conclusion of the event that SJP
>     received threats that attempted to undermine the event. I would hope that
>     these threats would be specified, publicized by the DI, investigated by
>     University Police, and addressed by University administration.
>
>     The event was well-attended, including a couple of dozen Zionist students.
>     Their questions were straight out of what is called the "hasbara" (Zionist
>     propaganda) playbook. These students asserted that Palestinian hatred for
>     Israel is so stubborn that nothing that Israel does could possibly do
>     would do anything but endanger the safety of Israelis. These assertions
>     were competently addressed by the speakers, including a Palestinian
>     student who spoke during the question period. The Israeli speaker
>     correctly asserted that the Israeli government is the worst terrorist in
>     the Middle East; but actually, it would be more correct to say that the
>     U.S. government is the worst terrorist in the region.
>
>     For the record, it's important to note that students who support and
>     rationalize Israeli atrocities are no different than German youth in the
>     1930s who supported the Nazi Party. Yes, they are young. Yes, they are
>     brainwashed. But given the information available, these are not valid
>     excuses. These ugly and hateful students show us that in 2010, on the
>     "diverse" UI campus, it is still acceptable to support perpetrators and
>     blame victims, however obvious that distinction is, with all of the racism
>     that that such willful ignorance implies.
>
>     This occurs partly because University administration tacitly equivocates
>     between social justice and political evil on issues of war and peace in
>     the Middle East. At that level, we all ought to be ashamed of ourselves.
>
>     David Green
>
>
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