[Peace-discuss] fourth amendment, and more, violated.

[E.Wayne Johnson]

It's hard to spit in anyone's eyes other than one's own when handcuffed and pushed face down horizontally on the floor.

You make a good point Mort. I am not always as bold, brave or carefree as I would like.
The Bravery of being out of range leaves one vulnerable to criticism, and rightly so.

Some projects bear far more risk than others.  One has to decide which battles to fight.  

Particularly such battles as are likely to accelerate far beyond one's coping ability.  
It's easy to be surprised by how little or how much one is able to take.  
.  
Such are the dangers of activism.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brussel Morton K. 
  To: C. G. Estabrook 
  Cc: Peace-discuss List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] fourth amendment, and more, violated.


  Estabrook and Johnson are clearly not travelling by airplane this weekend. 


  Castigating the ACLU (which, perhaps not incidentally, supports a woman's right to choose whether to continue a pregnancy) for telling people what they can legally do and expect is abject, but to be expected from this quarter.  I suppose they would spit in the eyes of the TSA types if they were trying to board a plane. Easy to be brave from the far sidelines.


  --mkb






  On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:02 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:


    Count on good liberals to knuckle under and advise acquiescence when the government says it's serious.

    People who urge serious opposition are excoriated with stupid phrases like "Planet Wingnut."

    With advice like this, it's hardly surprising that Americans can't muster the sort of opposition that we see in France, Germany, or even the UK. 

    On 11/23/10 7:03 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
    > Advising people what their legal rights are does not equal telling 
    > them to submit, except on Planet Wingnut.
    > 
    > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:49 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
    > wrote:
    >> The Orwellian lock-step Democrats seem to be offering a united
    >> front of pathetic submission to the Invasion of the Body Snatchers
    >> at TSA.
    >> 
    >> Even the generally sassy FireDogLake is advising people to submit.
    >> 
    >> Jane Hamster is offering not the 4th amendment: The right of the
    >> people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,
    >> against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, 
    >> and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by
    >> Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
    >> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    >> 
    >> FDL is advising people to "Know your Rights" (in other words, No
    >> Rights)
    >> 
    >> http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg
    >>
    >>
    >> Bless their cowardly little hearts.  May their chains rest lightly upon
    >> them.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> My take on this matter is that any response to TSA that is milder
    >> than at minimum a very polite "Fuck You! You're not going to do
    >> it!" is an egregious and embarrassing surrender.
    >> 
    >> Wayne Johnson


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