[Peace-discuss] DN: NAACP Report Ties Tea Party to Militia and Racist Groups

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Oct 21 15:18:50 CDT 2010


Mort--

Make a list of anti-war Democrats - ones who are willing to vote against funding 
the current war, for example - not just those who say "I'm against war."  
(Everyone is for peace - on their own terms.)

Send me your list, and I'll send you a longer one - beginning with Ron Paul's 
and Justin Raimondo's people - of those associated with the teapartiers who are 
against this war.

I remember, from a math class long ago, that this was a way to prove the 
existence of multiple infinities, by a process of iteration...

Neither group is infinite, but they do differ in magnitude.

Furthermore, the ones I refer to are organized - into Paul's R3VOLution, the 
Libertarian party, the paleoconservatives around several journals - while there 
is no organized Democratic party opposition to the Democratic president and 
administration.

Those of us with memories of a generation ago want to believe that there is an 
anti-war movement on the left wing of the Democratic party.

Unfortunately, no one's home.  It's been Obama's great contribution to the war 
effort to make that so.  --CGE


On 10/21/10 2:38 PM, Brussel wrote:
> Karen,
>
> Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line below). Ask where most of 
> the funding, who are the biggest contributors, and where most of the PR for 
> the Tea party comes from. And so what conclusion may one draw?
>
> Don't be surprised if he switches the subject, refuses to answer, or cannot 
> answer, because he doesn't have reliable sources.
>
> --mkb
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>> Come on, Karen. There are more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats.
>>
>> Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant that there is no parallel 
>> among the Democrats to Ron Paul's movement of principled opposition to the 
>> war, nor to that of libertarians and paleoconservatives around the website 
>> Antiwar.com <http://Antiwar.com> or the journal /The American Conservative/.
>>
>> As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact.
>>
>> On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>> I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
>>> before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
>>> undocumented immigrants" became popular.
>>>
>>> Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
>>>
>>> All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
>>>
>>> With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
>>> it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
>>>
>>> -karen medina
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