[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
Jenifer Cartwright
jencart13 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 31 22:28:45 CDT 2010
It was NOT the Dems' Supreme Court picks who voted for Citizens' United (speaking of Corporate Interests and Money). Do you want Ginsburg's replacement to be another Roberts-Alito-Scolia-Thomas??
Easy to oversimplify, but do you have any idea what it takes to get a bill bro't up for a vote, let alone passed??? Esp when the Repubs in this Congress are committed to the destruction of anything and everything progressive the Dems bring up... Re the health care bill: the Repubs are committed to repeal, so it must have lots in it that they don't like, huh? CCHCC and other knowledgeable groups who advocate for free universal health care have voiced approval for many things in the bill, have said that a stronger bill wouldn't have had a chance of passing, and remind us that it's easier to improve a flawed existing bill than to start from scratch.
No, sad to say, the Dems continue to support the wars only slightly less than do the Repubs -- it's not even front and center in discussions (or rallies) these days... It's a complicated perpetuation and I HATE HATE HATE it... but nevertheless, things would be lots worse if McCain were president instead of Obama. No, not much comfort, I agree until you think of the future, rather than the past or present. --Jenifer
--- On Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:
From: David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 9:02 PM
" if you don't get this, I can't help you. "
I can say the same thing to you as
well.
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from
expanding the war in Afganistan.
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama's phoney
" health care reform " , which was a give away to the corporate insurance
industry, and denied medicare for millions via individual state intiatives until
2019.
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from
supporting the bank bail-out and watering down the so called reforms on the
Banking industry....
and the list goes on.
AS I Said ... IT IS THE CORPORATE MONEY
!
ANY candidate who takes corporate money is
compromised and is our enemy !
It does not matter what party they
are.
Until YOU realize this and act accordingly, you
will continue to be " played ". The corporate interests will continue to win and
we the people will continue to lose !
David J.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jenifer
Cartwright
To: Peace-discuss List ; David Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:50
PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These
People Are Voting
IF is yr problem here, David J. Yes, you and I would both
LOVE for the US to be a socialist democracy, and for lawmakers like
Kucinich and Feingold -- and even Sanders, maybe -- to be at the right
of the political spectrum, but we don't have that option... So we have
to settle for whatever will keep the country from sliding even farther
to the right... which means we go w/ our long-term conscience and vote
for Dems, the lesser of evils, to keep the Repubs, the greater of evils,
out! (Evidence to the contrary that Obama hasn't done anything... and
he'd have done more w/o the obstructionist Repubs -- look it up). As I
said before, if you don't get this, I can't help you.
--Jenifer
--- On Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson
<dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:
From:
David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To: "Peace-discuss
List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 11:06
AM
The proof is in the pudding Jenifer
!
Where is our " Hope and Change " ?
Since Obama's election and even before that when
the democrats took control of both the House and Senate, the VERY SAME
Bush policies continue.
NOTHING has changed !
The same people run the show via a different
hand puppet with a different party label.
My family were staunch democrats going back to
FDR and I myself was one as well, going door to door, doing phone
banks, registering people to vote, etc., until I began to see and get
fed up with the betrayl of working people by the democrats
starting with Bill Clinton and NAFTA.
IF we had someone like Dennis Kucinich , Nancy
Kaptur, Paul Wellstone, etc. that I was able to vote for, I would vote
for them enthusiasticly,
But we don't, and how voting for corporate
funded ; pro-privatization, pro-war, pro " free trade
" democrats is going to change anything for the better in this
country is a delusion !
Wake-up and realize that you are being played
via the " good cop - bad cop " game.
Until we stop voting for ANY candidate that
takes corporate money, regardless of their party label, start getting
more active in getting REAL anti-corporate democrats ( and republicans
) elected in the primaries, and build a third party to hedge our bets
for the general election when no anti-corporate candidates are
available, nothing will change for the better !
David Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: Jenifer Cartwright
To: Peace-discuss
List ; David Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010
12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss]
Fw: These People Are Voting
If you really don't see any difference betw the
Dems and Repubs, well, it's beyond my ability to help you with
that. And if you do see a difference, but it's not enuff of a
difference for you, I guess you'll have to live w/ yr choice.
Unfortunately, I and others will also have to live w/ yr
choice, which means a hopelessly scary outcome.
--Jenifer
--- On Sat, 10/30/10,
David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
wrote:
From:
David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To:
"Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer
Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday,
October 30, 2010, 6:58 PM
Which " cretins " are you refering to
?
The corporate sponsored democrats or
the corporate sponsored republicans ?
I am voting for the ONLY real
alternative to corporate plutocracy,
( since Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Kaptur,
or the small handfull of other decent dems are not in our
area ) and that is the GREEN party.
Don't be fooled by the good cop / bad
cop corporate game !
David J.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jenifer
Cartwright
To: Peace-discuss
Sent: Saturday,
October 30, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject:
[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
Effective -- I hope this has been
playing long enuff and far and wide enuff for the
right (meaning, left) folks to see it and dop
their best on Tuesday to keep out the cretins.
(Easier to keep them out then get them out once
they're in -- think "Supreme Court"...)
--Jenifer
--- On Sat, 10/30/10,
James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <info at colorofchange.org>
wrote:
From:
James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org
<info at colorofchange.org>
Subject: These
People Are Voting
To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday,
October 30, 2010, 2:25 PM
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