[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting

Jenifer Cartwright jencart13 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 31 22:28:45 CDT 2010


It was NOT the Dems' Supreme Court picks who voted for Citizens' United (speaking of Corporate Interests and Money). Do you want Ginsburg's replacement to be another Roberts-Alito-Scolia-Thomas??
Easy to oversimplify, but do you have any idea what it takes to get a bill bro't up for a vote, let alone passed??? Esp when the Repubs in this Congress are committed to the destruction of anything and everything progressive the Dems bring up... Re the health care bill: the Repubs are committed to repeal, so it must have lots in it that they don't like, huh? CCHCC and other knowledgeable groups who advocate for free universal health care have voiced approval for many things in the bill, have said that a stronger bill wouldn't have had a chance of passing, and remind us that it's easier to improve a flawed existing bill than to start from scratch. 
No, sad to say, the Dems continue to support the wars only slightly less than do the Repubs -- it's not even front and center in discussions (or rallies) these days... It's a complicated perpetuation and I HATE HATE HATE it... but nevertheless, things would be lots worse if McCain were president instead of Obama. No, not much comfort, I agree until you think of the future, rather than the past or present.  --Jenifer
--- On Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:

From: David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 9:02 PM



 
 
 
 " if you don't get this, I can't help you. "
 
I can say the same thing to you as 
well.
 
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from 
expanding the war in Afganistan.
 
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama's phoney 
" health care reform " , which was a give away to the corporate insurance 
industry, and denied medicare for millions via individual state intiatives until 
2019.
 
It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from 
supporting the bank bail-out and watering down the so called reforms on the 
Banking industry....
 
and the list goes on.
 
AS I Said ... IT IS THE CORPORATE MONEY 
!
 
ANY candidate who takes corporate money is 
compromised and is our enemy !
It does not matter what party they 
are.
 
Until YOU realize this and act accordingly, you 
will continue to be " played ". The corporate interests will continue to win and 
we the people will continue to lose !
 
David J.
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Jenifer 
  Cartwright 
  To: Peace-discuss List ; David Johnson 
  
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These 
  People Are Voting
  

  
    
    
      IF is yr problem here, David J. Yes, you and I would both 
        LOVE for the US to be a socialist democracy, and for lawmakers like 
        Kucinich and Feingold -- and even Sanders, maybe -- to be at the right 
        of the political spectrum, but we don't have that option... So we have 
        to settle for whatever will keep the country from sliding even farther 
        to the right... which means we go w/ our long-term conscience and vote 
        for Dems, the lesser of evils, to keep the Repubs, the greater of evils, 
        out! (Evidence to the contrary that Obama hasn't done anything... and 
        he'd have done more w/o the obstructionist Repubs -- look it up). As I 
        said before, if you don't get this, I can't help you.
         --Jenifer 

--- On Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson 
        <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:

        
From: 
          David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re: 
          [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To: "Peace-discuss 
          List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" 
          <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 11:06 
          AM


           
          The proof is in the pudding Jenifer 
          !
           
          Where is our " Hope and Change " ?
           
          Since Obama's election and even before that when 
          the democrats took control of both the House and Senate, the VERY SAME 
          Bush policies continue.
          NOTHING has changed !
          The same people run the show via a different 
          hand puppet with a different party label.
          My family were staunch democrats going back to 
          FDR and I myself was one as well, going door to door, doing phone 
          banks, registering people to vote, etc., until I began to see and get 
          fed up with the betrayl of working people by the democrats 
          starting with Bill Clinton and NAFTA.
           
          IF we had someone like Dennis Kucinich , Nancy 
          Kaptur, Paul Wellstone, etc. that I was able to vote for, I would vote 
          for them enthusiasticly,
           
          But we don't, and how voting for corporate 
          funded ; pro-privatization, pro-war, pro " free trade 
          " democrats is going to change anything for the better in this 
          country is a delusion !
           
          Wake-up and realize that you are being played 
          via the " good cop - bad cop " game.
          Until we stop voting for ANY candidate that 
          takes corporate money, regardless of their party label, start getting 
          more active in getting REAL anti-corporate democrats ( and republicans 
          ) elected in the primaries, and build a third party to hedge our bets 
          for the general election when no anti-corporate candidates are 
          available, nothing will change for the better !
           
          David Johnson
           
          
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Jenifer Cartwright 
            To: Peace-discuss 
            List ; David Johnson 
            Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 
            12:45 AM
            Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] 
            Fw: These People Are Voting
            

            
              
              
                If you really don't see any difference betw the 
                  Dems and Repubs, well, it's beyond my ability to help you with 
                  that. And if you do see a difference, but it's not enuff of a 
                  difference for you, I guess you'll have to live w/ yr choice. 
                  Unfortunately, I and others will also have to live w/ yr 
                  choice, which means a hopelessly scary outcome. 
                   --Jenifer  

--- On Sat, 10/30/10, 
                  David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> 
                  wrote:

                  
From: 
                    David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
Subject: Re: 
                    [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
To: 
                    "Peace-discuss List" 
                    <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer 
                    Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, 
                    October 30, 2010, 6:58 PM


                     
                    Which " cretins " are you refering to 
                    ?
                     
                    The corporate sponsored democrats or 
                    the corporate sponsored republicans ?
                     
                    I am voting for the ONLY real 
                    alternative to corporate plutocracy,
                    ( since Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Kaptur, 
                    or the small handfull of other decent dems are not in our 
                    area ) and that is the GREEN party.
                     
                    Don't be fooled by the good cop / bad 
                    cop corporate game !
                     
                    David J.
                    
                      ----- Original Message ----- 
                      
                      From: 
                      Jenifer 
                      Cartwright 
                      To: Peace-discuss 
                      Sent: Saturday, 
                      October 30, 2010 5:22 PM
                      Subject: 
                      [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting
                      

                      
                        
                        
                          Effective -- I hope this has been 
                            playing long enuff and far and wide enuff for the 
                            right (meaning, left) folks to see it and dop 
                            their best on Tuesday to keep out the cretins. 
                            (Easier to keep them out then get them out once 
                            they're in -- think "Supreme Court"...) 
                             --Jenifer

--- On Sat, 10/30/10, 
                            James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <info at colorofchange.org> 
                            wrote:

                            
From: 
                              James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org 
                              <info at colorofchange.org>
Subject: These 
                              People Are Voting
To: "Jenifer Cartwright" 
                              <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, 
                              October 30, 2010, 2:25 PM


                              
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