[Peace-discuss] A broader perspective

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Mon Jul 25 19:09:38 CDT 2011


David should treat this contempt with the remark it deserves...!

And those asking for particulars should take the trouble to read the article he 
cites.

David points to the important fact that it is self-styled *liberal* (in our 
sense) governments (aka social democratic) that have generated mad rightist 
protests - cf. the Tea Party in the US - by adopting neoliberal (covert but 
stringent anti-working class) policies.  The policies are oppressive and their 
practitioners (notably BHO) lie about them.  See his frantic desire to cut 
Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - just the opposite of what should be done.

WSWS points out that it is "more than cynical when President Obama responds to 
the murders in Oslo by calling for the 'war on terror' to be stepped up. In 
fact, this 'war' has directly contributed to the tragedy in Oslo."

Some of us have been pointing out for years that Obama is a fraud. He should be 
driven from office as LBJ was, for his expansion of the war and his failure to 
produce a jobs program. (And Johnson was far better on social programs.)

Meanwhile, we should instruct our Congressional delegation that there should be 
[1] no spending cuts - except to the military; and [2] no new taxes - except on 
the richest 1%.

Remarkably enough, we might now find a better reception amongst the old Right 
than among the soi-disant liberals in the US.  --CGE

On 7/25/11 5:21 PM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
>  So, what I got from this boilerplate reasoning(?) is that "They got
>  what they deserved".
>
>  I don't have the time to examine just how the social democrats (all
>  of them?) in Norway "dismantled the welfare state, cut wages, and
>  deregulated the job market". David, can you provide references?
>
>  --mkb
>
>  On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:35 PM, David Green wrote:
>
> > Responsibility for the growth of fascist forces lies with the
> > policies of the entire bourgeoisie. Within this, however, the role
> > of the social democratic and petty-bourgeois ex-left parties---who
> > ultimately become the fascists' target---is particularly pernicious.
> > As the social democrats dismantled the welfare state, cut wages and
> > deregulated the job market, the petty-bourgeois ex-left and the
> > union bureaucracy suppressed all opposition in the working class.
> > As a result, the rhetoric of protest was ceded to the extreme
> > right.
> >
> > Norway is no exception in this respect. In his first short
> > (2000-2001) term in office, Jens Stoltenberg oriented to the New
> > Labour of Prime Minister Tony Blair in Britain, radically cut back
> > the welfare state and privatized key public services. In 2005, he
> > drew his inspiration from Obama and returned to power with the
> > slogan "*Jens, we can*." Since then, he has ruled through a social
> > democratic-Green coalition with the Socialist Left Party and the
> > right-wing Farmers Party.
> >
> > http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jul2011/pers-j25.shtml
> >

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