[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Veterans to stage protest at Tim Johnson's office this Thursday on the Eve of Veterans' Day

C. G. ESTABROOK cge at shout.net
Mon Nov 7 17:28:08 CST 2011


Tim Johnson is one of the few members of Congress who consistently  
votes against money for war in the Mideast and Africa.

David Gill may be "against our wars and foreign policies," but he has  
studiously avoided saying that he would vote against more money for  
war as Johnson does.

If AWARE and other anti-war groups are trying to convince our  
representatives to vote against the war, why we do we reject one who  
does that in favor of one who won't say that he'll do the same thing?


On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Brussel, Morton K wrote:

> Good remarks Karen.
>
> Carl has been pursuing a vendetta against David Gill while enamored  
> with Tim Johnson for years, now, it seems, and for reasons not  
> always transparent. It seems that Carl interprets Gill's beliefs/ 
> positions in biased ways. For example, I've heard Gill  in person  
> declare that he was against our wars and foreign policies, including  
> Israel-Palestine,  and also against bloated military budgets. And,  
> of course, he has advocated a single payer health insurance system,  
> which Johnson opposes. Gill has attempted to answer Carl's attacks  
> upon him, but his answers have never been accepted as forthright  
> enough for Carl.
>
> Yes, Gill will be sorely tested if elected. Congress seems to  
> corrupt those who enter its precincts: Politicians like to retain  
> power and this too often compromises the common welfare. Would Gill  
> have the fortitude to stand against the Democratic leadership? We  
> won't know until he's there, but he's seemed to me a progressive  
> candidate.
>
> We have much more data on Tim Johnson, and as Carl says, it is not  
> all bad.
>
> My 2¢.  --mkb
>
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Karen Medina wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for making this a public discussion.
>>
>> The IVAW announcement was clear on the reasons for protesting Tim
>> Johnson's legislative actions with regards to veterans benefits. As  
>> an
>> AWARE member, I fully support your stance on veterans benefits, your
>> criticism of Tim Johnson, and your strong commitment to your other  
>> two
>> goals. I plan to be at Johnson's office with you.
>>
>> Also as an anti-war activist, I do not trust, promote, or support any
>> politician. Not one has ever been all that I would want him/her to  
>> be,
>> though one or two has come close.
>>
>> I am critical of all political candidates and I do vote, so this
>> discussion is of vital importance.
>>
>> Thanks Carl for helping make clear we know which aspects of Tim
>> Johnson to support and which ones we are there to criticize.
>>
>> -karen medina
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