[Peace-discuss] Fw: Obama: $400 Billion in Safety Net Cuts

Sat Dec 1 14:41:58 UTC 2012

In regards to the " net " Wayne,
lets not compare apples to onions.

Like any tool or vehicle, government can be helpful or harmful.

When government attempts to infringe upon citizens right to ; speak, write, assemble, associate, travel, form Unions, be arrested without evidence or warrant, have an attorney, and general Magna Carta, Bill ot Rights, and Habeous Corpus rights, etc..
Also in general making gun ownership, abortion rights, drug possesion. prostitution, gambling, ( ie. victimless acts ) illegal and in general NOT representing the will of the people then YES, government IS the " net " being cast over them.
That would be the " onion ".

When government represents the will of the people and promotes the general common good like providing ; fire protection, road and bridge repair, disaster relief, pollution control, work place ( wage, hour, conditions, and safety ) laws,  prohibitions against slavery and child labor and yes,
provides economic safeguards like public healthcare coverage for ALL, social security retirement / disability, free public education including K-12, community college and Universities, for those who want it,
then that would be the " apple " and the " net " that protects and promotes the commons.

Do we want to live in a country like Norway or do we want to live in a country like Haiti ?

David Johnson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" 
  To: David Johnson 
  Cc: Peace-discuss 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Obama: $400 Billion in Safety Net Cuts

  The positioning of the net.  
  Some feel the net is underneath them to catch them in case of trouble.

  Others feel the net has caught them already and has been cast over them
  to keep them from causing any trouble.

  On 12/01/12 2:29, David Johnson wrote: 

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