[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Obama Tells CNN He Can Kill You

C. G. Estabrook cge at shout.net
Fri Sep 7 20:05:04 UTC 2012


At least we can laugh our way to the gallows (especially when it's only whistleblowers being tortured and Pakistani kids being killed). 


On Sep 7, 2012, at 1:34 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

>> You claimed that there are checks on presidential power, pointing only to checks by your own subordinates, not by courts, not by Congress, and not by the public.
> Uh, Jack... did Goldman Sachs send their check this month?....Good...What about JPMorgan?... Call Jamie and tell him we are going to cut him if he doesnt play ball...No dont call his fucking secretary call Jamie Dimon...I dont care where he is tell him to send in the damn check...Hey good government is all about checks and balances.  They send the checks, our bank balance goes up.  C'est la vie.
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>> We ask you to live up to your own rhetorical support for the rule of law and due process, and end this Kill List policy now.
> Please, Barry?  Pretty please?  Our knees are getting sore down here.
> Aww, we're tired of playing Golden Showers...dont you know any other games...
> ok...we are sorry we asked...Yes we trust you, Barry, of course we do.
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> 
> On 9/8/2012 1:44 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>> From: RootsAction Team <info at rootsaction.org>
>>> Subject: Obama Tells CNN He Can Kill You
>>> Date: September 7, 2012 12:41:56 PM CDT
>>> To: cge at shout.net
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>>> "Due process" can be a trial, or a missile through your roof.
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>>> President Obama told CNN this week that he can kill Americans or non-Americans, the difference being that with Americans their killing amounts to their Constitutionally guaranteed due process.
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>>> CNN asked Obama how he chooses names for his kill list, but he declined to say.  Obama claimed that there are checks on his power, pointing only to checks by his own subordinates, not by courts, not by Congress, and not by the public -- which he reassures with vague statements that amount to "trust me."
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>>> Obama claimed that his preference is to capture people rather than to kill them.  This does not fit with cases like that of Tariq Khan, a 16-year-old killed by drone strike following his participation in a conference at which he could have easily been captured.  It does not fit with the lack of criminal charges against virtually any of the people killed.
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>>> Obama claimed that he avoids killing civilians, yet careful research has documented large numbers of civilians killed, including this week in Yemen.
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>>> Tell President Obama to live up to his own rhetorical support for the rule of law and due process.
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>>> Tell him that a drone strike or a bullet to the head does not constitute due process, for Americans or anyone else.
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