[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: announcements from Green Shadow Cabinet 8/29/13

[John W.]

Ah, well.  I'm not a physicist, and I know nothing about Wasserman.  I do
know that while nuclear "accidents" may not be as common as thunderstorms,
they are guaranteed to happen from time to time and are therefore
"eminently predictable", just like gun deaths.  Building a nuclear power
plant in a crowded metropolitan area near the ocean or near an earthquake
fault line is a recipe for disaster.

I'm also reasonably certain that, if we invested the kind of money in solar
and wind and geothermal energy that we have invested, and continue to
invest, in tar sands and fracking and "clean coal" and nuclear power
plants, we COULD be 100% reliant on those energy sources within a
relatively short time to supply all of our power needs, without a downside.
 We'll never know, though, unless we invest that money in an intelligent
energy policy.

John again


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Brussel Morton K.
<mkbrussel at comcast.net>wrote:

> Fukushima (relating to John's remark ) wasn't "eminently predictable". It
> was a rare, unpredictable, disaster for the Japanese. Yes, the reactor
> design and its location was defective (mostly in afterthought), and the
> economic costs huge for the Japanese. But despite "all the radiation"
> released, there have been no death's or recorded severe deleterious health
> effects to my knowledge. Perhaps one should also look at the Public
> Television program on the "Wolves of Tchernobyl): The wolves seem to be
> thriving. The point is that low levels (I could quantify that if you wish)
> of nuclear radiation have not been shown to be harmful; we've been living
> with it for ages, and the levels from Fukushima that individuals will
> receive are in fact low. Lower than one gets in going to hospitals where
> nuclear radiation is used all the time, to good effect. Finally, I have
> little doubt that eventually nuclear reactors will be needed to supplant
> fossil fuels as energy sources, together with renewables, and therefore,
> there should be continued research and development of the new designs of
> reactors, already well developed, which in fact will eliminate the problems
> usually cited against nuclear waste, proliferation, etc.. At the present
> time, the economics of nuclear energy are, in the U.S., unfavorable.
> Eventually, that will change. China, India and other countries will
> continue to build them, because they need to, and to supplant coal as an
> energy source. Finally-"bis", nuclear power is good as a replacement of
> fossil fuels to hold back catastrophic climate change. If you all are
> worried about that you should not be so negative about nuclear power.
>
> Wasserman is ignorantly obsessed, as are too many, unfortunately, in the
> so-called environmental community. I find it sad, and depressing.
>
> --mkb
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:51 PM, John W. wrote:
>
>
> Are you still committed to nuclear energy, Mort?  Even after Fukushima
> (which was eminently predictable)?
>
> John Wason
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Brussel Morton K. <mkbrussel at comcast.net>wrote:
>
> I admire most of what the Green Shadow cabinet is saying, except for the
>> ignoramus (on nuclear energy and its effects) Harvey Wasserman. Having him
>> as the "Secretary of Energy" is enough to turn me off me from the
>> enterprise.
>>
>> --mkb
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:15 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>
>> Small businesses win with fast food strike<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298050&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by Sarah Manski, Small Business Administration<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298051&qid=1115027>
>>
>> As thousands of fast food workers in nearly 60 cities strike today for a
>> living wage, progressive small business people stand with them. People
>> working at jobs that pay $7-8 an hour cannot support themselves or their
>> families. There is no way to make that math work. And workers who cannot
>> support themselves are in no position to spend money purchasing services
>> and products from local businesses. The low wage economy means big profits
>> for major corporations, hardship for working people, and hard times for
>> local economies.
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: Small businesses win with fast food workers strike<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298050&qid=1115027>
>>
>> ** **
>>  ** ** Don't attack Syria<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298052&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by Green Shadow Cabinet of the United States<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298053&qid=1115027>
>>
>> If President Obama launches an attack without prior explicit
>> authorization by Congress, he will have committed an offense worthy of
>> impeachment.  If he launches an attack without authorization from the UN,
>> he will be guilty of war crimes. The Green Shadow Cabinet insists in the
>> strongest possible terms that the Obama administration refrain from
>> military actions against Syria.
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: Don't attack Syria<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298052&qid=1115027>
>>
>> ** **
>>  ** ** Vermont Yankee victory opens path to solar, wind future<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298054&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by Harvey Wasserman, Secretary of Energy<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298055&qid=1115027>
>>
>> Grassroots citizen activism and the No Nukes movement have won another
>> great victory with Entergy's announcement that the Vermont Yankee reactor
>> will shut down. It is closing only because of the fierce non-violent
>> determination of countless activists over the decade who value life and
>> understand the horrible destructive power of atomic energy, as is now being
>> demonstrated so destructively at Fukushima.
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: Vermont Yankee victory opens path to solar, wind future<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298054&qid=1115027>
>>
>> ** **
>>  ** ** Obama's higher education plan will victimize students further<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298056&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by Prof. Kimberly King, Secretary of Education<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298057&qid=1115027>
>>
>> On the morning of August 22nd, President Obama released a new plan that
>> would actually decrease funding for higher education by tying it to
>> so-called “performance” evaluations, cost-cutting efforts, decreased
>> regulations, and would threaten students with financial aid cuts.
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: Obama's higher education plan will victimize students
>>    further<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298056&qid=1115027>
>>
>> ** **
>>  ** ** 10 problems with the latest excuse for war<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298059&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by David Swanson, Secretary of Peace<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298060&qid=1115027>
>>
>> If you own a television or read a newspaper you've probably heard that we
>> need another war because the Syrian government used chemical weapons. If
>> you own a computer and know where to look<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298061&qid=1115027> you've
>> probably heard that there isn't actually any evidence for that claim.
>> Following are 10 reasons why this latest excuse for war is no good *even
>> if true . . .*
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: 10 problems with the latest excuse for war<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298059&qid=1115027>
>>
>> ** **
>>  ** ** Our March on Washington continues<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298062&qid=1115027>
>> **
>>       by George Paz Martin, Peace Ambassador<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298063&qid=1115027>
>>
>> At 16 years of age on the morning of August 28th, 1963, I woke up to a
>> new day in our country. We felt so alone driving through the dark night
>> from Milwaukee to Washington. That bright morning we were joining with
>> hundreds of thousands of people for the Great March on Washington for Jobs
>> and Freedom. This day was my “Coming of Age.” I was a teenager consumed
>> with studies, work, sports and friends. That day I felt beyond myself -
>> that I was part of a great movement, a mass of beautiful, friendly people,
>> of all races and ages wanting freedom and equality for all.
>>   **
>>
>>    - Read more: Our March on Washington continues<http://greenshadowcabinet.us/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=298062&qid=1115027>
>>
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