[Peace-discuss] Oliver Stone: Help the UN rectify its cholerablunder in Haiti

[Roger Helbig]

I expect that you are not willing to stand behind this calumny in a court
of law where you actually have to present evidence and are subject to
discovery!  You certainly do like to libel anyone who you have taken a
dislike to.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:

> Great Statistics Carl,
>
> Let' s not forget that Bill Clinton has been profiting off of Haiti's U.S.
> / U.N. imposed misery.
> He has made millions of dollars via his " foundation " pimping old Katrina
> contaminated FEMA trailers ( the firm is the same ARKANSAS company from
> Katrina notariety ) and calling them " Hurricane Proof Shelters ".
> Black Agenda Report has called Bill Clinton
> " The defacto colonial Viceroy of Haiti ".
>
> The most imaginative fiction Author couldn't conceive in his or her
> wildest dreams / nightmares of this twisted shit.
>
> Meanwhile the sweatshops and multi-national oil and mining companies are
> making profits hand over fist with U.S. and U.N. troops protecting their
> interests often shooting demonstrators with live ammunition.
> But rarely a word about Haiti reported in the U.S. corporate media.
> I wonder where all that donated earth quake money went ?
>
> David Johnson
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl G. Estabrook" <
> galliher at illinois.edu>
> To: "David Green" <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.**net<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> >
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Oliver Stone: Help the UN rectify its
> cholerablunder in Haiti
>
>
>  Haiti by the Numbers, Three Years Later
>> by Dan Beeton and Jake Johnston
>>
>> Number of people killed in the earthquake in 2010: over 217,300
>>
>> Number of people killed by cholera epidemic caused by U.N. troops since
>> October 19, 2010:over 7,912 [i]
>>
>> Number of cholera cases worldwide in 2010 and 2011:906,632
>>
>> Percent of worldwide cholera cases that were in Haiti in those years: 57
>>
>> Total number of cholera cases in Haiti from 2010-2012: 635,980 [ii]
>>
>> Days Since Cholera Was Introduced in Haiti Without an Apology From the
>> U.N.: 813
>>
>> Percent of the population that lacks access to "improved" drinking water:
>> 42
>>
>> Funding needed for U.N./CDC/Haitian government 10-year cholera
>> eradication plan: $2.2 billion
>>
>> Percent of $2.2 billion which the U.N. pledged to provide: 1
>>
>> Percent of $2.2 billion that the U.N. has spent on MINUSTAH[iii] since
>> the earthquake: 87
>>
>> Amount disbursed by bilateral and multilateral donors to Haiti from
>> 2010-2012: $6.43 billion
>>
>> Percent that went through the Haitian government: 9
>>
>> Amount the Haitian government has received in budget support over this
>> time: $302.69 million
>>
>> Amount the American Red Cross raised for Haiti: $486 million
>>
>> Amount of budget support to the Haitian government in 2009, the year
>> before the earthquake: $93.60 million
>>
>> Amount of budget support to the Haitian government in 2011, the year
>> after the earthquake:$67.93 million
>>
>> Number of dollars, out of every $100 spent in humanitarian relief, that
>> went to the Haitian government: 1
>>
>> Value of all contracts awarded by USAID since the earthquake: $485.5
>> million [iv]
>>
>> Percent of contracts that has gone to local Haitian firms: 1.2 [v]
>>
>> Percent of contracts that has gone to firms inside the beltway (DC,
>> Maryland, Virginia): 67.6[vi]
>>
>> Number of people displaced from their homes by the earthquake: 1.5 million
>>
>> Number of people still in displaced persons camps today: 358,000
>>
>> Percent that have left camps due to relocation programs by the Haitian
>> government and international agencies: 25
>>
>> Share of camp residents facing a constant threat of forced eviction: 1 in
>> 5
>>
>> Number of transitional shelters built by aid agencies since the
>> earthquake: 110,964
>>
>> Percent of transitional shelters that went to camp residents: 23
>>
>> Number of new houses constructed since the earthquake: 5,911
>>
>> Number of houses marked “red”, meaning they were in need of demolition:
>> 100,178
>>
>> Number of houses marked “yellow”, meaning they were in need of repairs to
>> make safe enough to live in: 146,004
>>
>> Estimated number of people living in houses marked either “yellow” or
>>  “red”: 1 million
>>
>> Number of houses that have actually been repaired: 18,725
>>
>> Percent growth of the Haitian economy (GDP) in 2012, predicted by the IMF
>> in April 2011: 8.8
>>
>> Actual percent growth of the Haitian economy (GDP) in 2012: 2.5
>>
>> U.N. Office of Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) funding appeal
>> for 2013: $144 million
>>
>> Percent of last year’s OCHA appeal that was actually funded: 40
>>
>> Funding committed by the U.S. Government for the Caracol industrial park:
>> $124 million
>>
>> Share of U.S. funds earmarked for “reconstruction” that this represents:
>> 1/4th
>>
>> Cost of building 750 houses near the Caracol park for workers: $20 million
>>
>> Cost of building 86-100 houses for U.S. Embassy staff: $85 - 100 million
>>
>> Share of garment factories in Haiti found to be out of compliance with
>> minimum wage requirements: 21 of 22
>>
>> Number of garment factories that have lost preferential tariff benefits
>> to the U.S. because of labor violations: 0
>>
>> [i] According to the Haitian Ministry of Health, based on reported cases.
>> The actual number is probably much higher.
>> [ii] According to the Haitian Ministry of Health, based on reported
>> cases. The actual number is probably much higher.
>> [iii] The U.N. Stabilization Mission in Haiti, comprised mostly of
>> military troops and police officers. U.N. troops were responsible for
>> causing the cholera epidemic, according to scientific studies.
>> [iv] Authors’ calculations based on information in Federal Procurement
>> Data System.
>> [v] Ibid.
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/**view/2013/01/10-2<http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/01/10-2>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Haiti indeed has a cultural problem. It is called "American
>>> exceptionalism."
>>>
>>> From: David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>
>>> To: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.**net<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>> >
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:02 AM
>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Oliver Stone: Help the UN rectify its
>>> cholera blunder in Haiti
>>>
>>> "It's ridiculous to blame the UN for a funda mental cultural problem."
>>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> Haiti's problem(s) are NOT cultural.
>>>
>>> Haiti's problems are and have always been interference, foreign military
>>> intervention, and economic domination / sanctions.
>>> I won't go into the 200 some year history with the U.S. and France after
>>> the Haitian revolution, their economic rape, pillage and extortion via
>>> naval blockades and military interventions. Not to mention their installing
>>> and backing brutal dictators and the most recent U.S. invasion in 2004 with
>>> U.S. Special Forces troops forcing the elected President Aristide and his
>>> family at gunpoint to leave the Presidential Palace where upon the U.S. put
>>> them on a military plane and dumped them in the Central African Republic
>>> and then banned the majority political party in Haiti ( Aristide's Party )
>>> and jailed all of it's leaders. All becasue Aristide wouldn't play ball
>>> with the IMF and World Bank, and wanted to raise the minimum wage as well
>>> as spend more of Haiti's revenues on education, HEALTH and SANITATION
>>> programs.
>>> France and the U.N. are complicit in this CONTINUED military occupation
>>> and control of Haiti and are the source of ALL of Haiti's continued
>>> suffering and problems !
>>> See more details below........
>>>
>>> On February 29, 2004, with rebel contingents marching towards
>>> Port-au-Prince, Aristide departed from Haiti. Aristide insists that he was
>>> essentially kidnapped by the U.S., while the U.S. State Department
>>> maintains that he resigned from office. Aristide and his wife left Haiti on
>>> an American airplane, escorted by American diplomats and military
>>> personnel, and were flown directly to Bangui, capital of the Central
>>> African Republic, where he stayed for the following two weeks, before
>>> seeking asylum in a less remote location. This event was later
>>> characterized by Aristide as a kidnapping. Though this has never been
>>> proven, many observers in the press and academia believe that the US has
>>> not provided convincing answers to several of the more suspicious details
>>> surrounding the coup, such as the circumstances under which the US obtained
>>> Aristide's purported letter of "resignation" (as presented by the US)
>>> which, translated from Kreyol, does not actually read as a resignation.
>>>
>>> Aristide has accused the U.S. of deposing him in concert with the
>>> Haitian opposition.[40] In a 2006 interview, he said the U.S. went back on
>>> their word regarding compromises he made with them over privatization of
>>> enterprises to ensure that part of the profits would go to the Haitian
>>> people and then "relied on a disinformation campaign" to discredit him.[41]
>>>
>>> Political organizations and writers, as well as Aristide himself, have
>>> suggested that the rebellion was in fact a foreign controlled coup d'état.
>>> Caricom, which had been backing the peace deal, accused the United States,
>>> France, and the International community of failing in Haiti because they
>>> allegedly allowed a controversially elected leader to be violently forced
>>> out of office.
>>>
>>> David J.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: ""E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"" <
>>> ewj at pigsqq.org>
>>> To: "Carl G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
>>> Cc: "Robert Naiman" <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>**; "Peace-discuss
>>> List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.**net<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Oliver Stone: Help the UN rectify its
>>> cholera blunder in Haiti
>>>
>>>
>>> > It's ridiculous to blame the UN for a funda mental cultural problem.
>>> > It's also a bit difficult to discern the motivation for going after
>>> > the UN on this. I guess it is to induce the UN to fix the problem.
>>> > WHO's necks in line.
>>> >
>>> > I doubt very much that even the UN can change the
>>> > behaviour of Haitians.  Maybe if they could get some Muslims in there
>>> > then Obama could go after them with drones...
>>> >
>>> > Haiti doesn't have its human waste system and its
>>> > water supply separated very well.  This situation of poor sanitation
>>> > is exacerbated by a catastrophic event such as an earthquake,
>>> > a widespread fire, typhoon, tsunami, hurricane, or war.
>>> >
>>> > Many travelers from Cholera problem areas go to the industrialized
>>> > countries every year and develop clinical or sub-clinical cholera.
>>> > This does not result in epidemics because the industrialized countries
>>> > have established a sanitation system that prevents the spread of the >
>>> disease.
>>> >
>>> > There was an outbreak of Amoebiasis in Chicago after the great
>>> > fire due to human feces in the drinking water.
>>> >
>>> > No doubt O'Leary's cow must have been named Georgina.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 01/10/13 9:37, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> >> http://ijdh.org/archives/30243
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:13 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"<ewj at pigsqq.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Haiti was a pristine land of excellence in sanitation before
>>> >>> all them filthy UNers came in and trashed the place with
>>> >>> their VooDoo.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 01/10/13 8:25, Robert Naiman wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> This petition has more than 10,000 signers.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>> From: Oliver Stone, Just Foreign Policy<noreply at list.signon.org**>
>>> >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:18 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: Help the UN rectify its cholera blunder in Haiti
>>> >>>> To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear Robert,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We all make mistakes. Sometimes our mistakes badly hurt other >>>>
>>> people. When we make a mistake that badly hurts other people, it's >>>> our
>>> responsibility to do what we can to rectify the harm caused by >>>> our
>>> mistake.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The United Nations made a terrible series of mistakes in Haiti that
>>> >>>> badly hurt hundreds of thousands of Haitians. First, the UN sent >>>>
>>> troops to Haiti who were carriers of the deadly waterborne disease >>>>
>>> cholera, which was previously unknown in Haiti. Then, the UN didn't >>>>
>>> make sure that UN troops were using proper sanitation procedures. As >>>> a
>>> result, UN troops who were infected with cholera dumped their >>>>
>>> contaminated waste in a river that was used by Haitians for drinking >>>>
>>> water. Then, when people complained about sanitation problems at the >>>>
>>> UN base, the UN didn't do anything about the complaints.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As a result of the UN's mistakes, since October 2010 cholera has
>>> >>>> killed thousands of people in Haiti. Hundreds of thousands of >>>>
>>> Haitians have gotten ill, in a country with poor health care >>>>
>>> infrastructure to take care of them.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Now the UN has an opportunity to try to rectify the situation. The
>>> >>>> anniversary of the earthquake in Haiti is coming up in a few days,
>>> >>>> and that's a time when the world will turn its focus towards Haiti.
>>> >>>> It's also a time when the UN could make an announcement about what
>>> >>>> it's going to do about helping Haiti get rid of cholera. The >>>>
>>> government of Haiti and the UN have a plan, but so far the plan >>>> isn't
>>> funded. A plan that's not funded can't do anything. We need >>>> public
>>> pressure NOW on the UN and other donors to come through with >>>> money to
>>> implement the plan.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Can you help us build pressure on the UN and other donors to
>>> produce >>>> the money to get rid of cholera in Haiti? I've initiated a
>>> petition >>>> at Avaaz which has been signed by thousands of people from
>>> around >>>> the world. If we get enough signers, Members of Congress will
>>> >>>> present this petition to the UN.  Please sign and share my petition
>>> >>>> at this link:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.avaaz.org/en/**petition/End_Haitis_Cholera_**
>>> Epidemic_with_UN_Action_Now_1/<http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/End_Haitis_Cholera_Epidemic_with_UN_Action_Now_1/>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thank you for helping me help Haitians who've been hurt by cholera
>>> >>>> to raise their voices to the UN.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> –Oliver Stone, on behalf of Just Foreign Policy
>>>
>>
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