[Peace-discuss] Draft flyer (corrected) for AWARE demo, Aug. 3

Mon Aug 4 00:56:11 EDT 2014

Stephen,
A lot of what you have to say is useful and relevant.

CGE has perhaps more than anyone defended your right to say it.

It isn't very healthy to find a daemon behind every bush.
(Some of them have several.)

On 08/04/2014 10:31 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote:
> Here's a conspiracy for ya...
> Channel 3 sent out a video person to record the massive crowd of 6-8 
> people at Church and Neil demonstration today.
> She first set up her camera at the North East corner then moved it to 
> the Northwest corner when she discovered what my poster said.
> She deliberately set the camera up in a new position where two other 
> protesters obscured the view of my poster....
> see attachment....
> Is this a conspiracy or what?  ....
>
>
> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 6:59 PM, Carl G. Estabrook 
> <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
>
> You left out the Giant Rat of Sumatra, "a story for which the world is 
> not yet prepared."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:stephenf1113 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> You (CGE) have very eloquently proven my point.  Chomsky's prominence 
> as an intellectual voice for the 99% is undeniable except for 9/11 
> Truth. Coming from a 9/11 Truther, this is a glaring inconsistency, 
> because the same people we all rail against did 9/11 in our view.
>
> There is an ever growing list of dubious 'Commissions' and cover-ups 
> involving international crimes that have not passed the stink test 
> including the Warren Commission, the Dreyfus Affair, The Gladio Stay 
> Behind Network, Dimona, The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, Pedophile 
> Priests, Pearl Harbor, The Looting of Russia after the breakup of the 
> Soviet Union, The USS Liberty, Iran Contra, the looting of Japan after 
> WWII, Murdochs Phone Hacking, the Lincoln assassination, Holocaust 
> Hoax, WWI and WWII war profiteering, Stalin's last years, failed Cuban 
> invasion, the Hollywood creation called the Italian mafia, ....on and 
> on... 9/11 has just joined the list.
>
> Once it becomes common knowledge that 9/11 really was an inside job 
> (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Britain and the U. S.) Chomsky is going to have 
> more than egg on his face.  He will be proven an accomplice to the crime.
>
>
> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:44 PM, Carl G. Estabrook 
> <galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> Chomsky was of course "a nationally recognized figure" for more than 
> 40 years before the events of 9/11/2001.
>
> As a young man he did for the study of language roughly what Einstein 
> had done for physics: he established a new model for the subsequent 
> science.
>
> In the 1960's he took up writing against Kennedy's war in SE Asia and 
> quickly became one of the most important anti-war voices with articles 
> like "The Responsibility of Intellectuals" (1967) 
> <http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19670223.htm> and "On the 
> Backgrounds of the Pacific War" (1967) 
> <http://www.chomsky.info/articles/196709--.htm> - still very much 
> worth reading.
>
> Chomsky is an anarchist (libertarian socialist, if you prefer). He 
> presents a convincing case for that position in "Government in the 
> Future" (1970) 
> <http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2006/11/noam-chomsky-lecture-from-1970-full.html>.
>
> His brief book "9-11" was a best seller in 2001, because it didn't 
> follow the US government/media line. Here's a summary:
>
> "In '9-11', published in November 2001 and arguably the single most 
> influential post 9-11 book, internationally renowned thinker Noam 
> Chomsky bridged the information gap around the World Trade Center 
> attacks, cutting through the tangle of political opportunism, 
> expedient patriotism, and general conformity that choked off American 
> discourse in the months immediately following. Chomsky placed the 
> attacks in context, marshaling his deep and nuanced knowledge of 
> American foreign policy to trace the history of American political 
> aggression - in the Middle East and throughout Latin America as well 
> as in Indonesia, in Afghanistan, in India and Pakistan - at the same 
> time warning against America’s increasing reliance on military 
> rhetoric and violence in its response to the attacks, and making the 
> critical point that the mainstream media and public intellectuals were 
> failing to make: any escalation of violence as a response to violence 
> will inevitably lead to further, and bloodier, attacks on innocents in 
> America and around the world..."
>
> Chomsky's politics are such that he is cordially hated by soi-disant 
> liberals and progressives. In an interview in 2008 he said,
>
> "I should say that the place where I am most feared and despised is 
> probably in left liberal intellectual circles. If you want to see a 
> graphic indication of this, take a look at one of my favorite journal 
> covers, which is framed and posted right outside my door. It’s the 
> more or less official journal of left liberal intellectuals, The 
> American Prospect, and the cover depicts the terrible circumstances in 
> which they try to survive – the enormous forces that are virtually 
> destroying them.
>
> "In the picture, two figures are depicted; two faces, sneering and 
> angry. On one side is Dick Cheney and the Pentagon, on the other side 
> is me. The left liberal intellectuals are caught between these two 
> huge forces. This depiction is indicative of the paranoia and concern 
> that there might be some small break in orthodoxy. The liberal 
> intellectuals (and not just in the United States) are typically the 
> guardians at the gates: we’ll go this far, but not one millimeter 
> farther; and it’s terrifying to think that somebody might go a 
> millimeter farther. This extends throughout the major media too. So, 
> yes, the United States is a very free country, in fact it’s the freest 
> country in the world. I don’t think freedom of speech, for example, is 
> protected anywhere in the world as much as it is here. But it’s a very 
> managed society, it’s a business-run society, carefully managed, with 
> strict doctrinal requirements and no deviation tolerated – this would 
> be too dangerous.
>
> "One of the reasons it’s too dangerous is that the political 
> establishment, both political parties and the political class, is, on 
> many major issues, well to the right of the population. On health 
> care, for example, which you’ve written about for decades, the 
> population is to the left of the establishment, and has been so 
> forever. And the same is true for many other issues. So, permitting 
> issues to be discussed is threatening, and permitting deviation from a 
> kind of party line is dangerous and has to be carefully controlled."
>
> --CGE
>
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
> > I accuse CGE of gatekeeping because of his incessant quoting of 
> Chomsky.
> > I think Chomsky is in part a nationally recognized figure because of 
> his views on 9/11 Truth.
> > In efforts to control the opposition he plays a perfect role.
> > He is a prolific author and the vast majority of his positions are 
> acceptable to 'liberals', progressives'....etc  (whatever they are?)
> >
> > Zionists are very fearful of 9/11 Truth because it really threatens 
> them, so they have to ridicule and keep people distracted from it.
> >
> > Chomsky keeps people talking and not acting.
> > 9/11 Truth is about acting.  It's about prosecuting criminals not 
> jawboning policy. CGE is a jawboner.....
> > NYC CAN's effort was successful and they are in a strong position to 
> challenge any legal obstacles in their path.
> > A heartfelt thank you – We did it! – High-Rise Safety Initiative
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> > On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:43 AM, David Johnson 
> <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net <mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>> 
> wrote:
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> > Stephen,
> >
> > Good article about Bolivia and other South American countries 
> pulling their ambassadors from Israel,
> >
> > However, the other article is absolute nonsense. There are no " 
> left-wing " U.S. Congressmen and Senators.
> > Only corporate controlled neo-cons and neo-liberals.
> > The ONLY elected official in the entire U.S. that I am aware of who is
> >  " Left-wing " would be Socialist City Council member Kshama Sawant 
> in Seattle.
> >
> > And your continued accusations of Carl as a " Zionist Gatekeeper " 
> is absurd and borders on the delusional.
> >
> > David Johnson
> >
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