[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] : IL UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE ACT
David Johnson via Peace-discuss
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Tue Jul 8 08:33:24 EDT 2014
Astrid,
Medicare for All would NOT be a " second system put in place ". It would
make Obamacare null and void and there would no longer be subsidies from
our tax dollars being paid to the corporate private health insurance
industry, which would realize massive amounts of tax dollars saved in
addition to providing EVERYONE with healthcare.
The healthcare industry is powerful, but they are only one corporate
special interest and hence could be defeated. Look at the tobacco
industry. who would have thought 30 or more years ago that they could be
regulated and curtailed as they have been in the last several decades.
You do have a valid point about " the need for the whole country being
brought along ".
That is an ongoing tactical debate within the single payer / Medicare
for All movement. The current strategy is to work at both the State and
national levels. Canada was successful in their battle ( and it was a
hard fought battle ) for medicare for All in the early 1960's by
starting in Saskatchewan and then moving to all of the other provinces.
Vermont had a recent successful voter referendum for a single payer
system, but is currently blocked by a provision in the Obamacare law
prohibiting individual States from enacting a single payer system until
2017. Nevertheless they have a voter approved system in law and in place
ready to go forward in 2017.
The important thing to remember is that Medicare for All has the
support of over 65 % of the American people, so this is an issue that
cuts through the usual bullshit of identity politics and party politics.
The most important thing is that Medicare for All MUST be fought for. It
is decades over due and over 50,00 Americans die needlessly every year
and millions more ( YES Millions ) are forced into bankrupcy every year
because of the brutal inefficient and expensive privatized healthcare
system we currently have.
The Single payer / Medicare for All battle is the new civil rights
movement that MUST be fought for and won.
David Johnson
On 7/7/2014 10:05 PM, Astrid Berkson wrote:
> because we are all paying for obamacare, as expensive and efficient as
> it is, to put a second system in place, no matter how good, would
> amount to paying twice, a crushing burden. the healthcare-for -profit
> industry has the whole country by the balls. if we had done this
> before obamacare, we could be grandfathered in, but, as far as i can
> tell, now we have to take the whole country with us
> "May this be the worst day of your life".
> Old Irish blessing.
> On 7/7/2014 6:39 PM, David Johnson wrote:
>> Astrid,
>>
>> Single payer / Medicare for all is a self financing system.
>> It has nothing to do with Illinois being bankrupt. In fact, if passed
>> it would save Illinois tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars by
>> eliminating the private health insurance industry's monopoly control
>> over healthcare costs to not just individuals but also to those in
>> the Illinois Medicaid / Medicare program.
>> It also has NOTHING to do with Obamacare, which is the nemesis to
>> Medicare for all universal coverage, in that Obamacare's function is
>> to entrench and expand the corporate private health insurance
>> industry via fines to individuals for refusing to comply and
>> taxpayer dollars given to the corporate health insurance industry for
>> inadequate healthcare coverage.
>> Not to mention the corporate / privatization of segments of Medicare
>> / Medicaid via the Medicare Advantage program.
>> Universal Medicare for All would reverse the wasteful spending via
>> corporate subsidies to the corporate health insurance industry and at
>> the same time provide healthcare coverage to EVERYONE,
>> UNLIKE OBAMACARE !
>>
>> David J.
>>
>>
>> On 7/7/2014 6:18 PM, Astrid Berkson wrote:
>>> illinois is bankrupt. unless this can be funded through obamacare,
>>> it is a nonstarter. before we were bankrupt, they considered a law
>>> like this and i think obama killed it in committee.
>>> "May this be the worst day of your life".
>>> Old Irish blessing.
>>> On 7/7/2014 5:22 PM, David Johnson davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net
>>> [sf-core] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Short Description: IL UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE ACT
>>>>
>>>> House Sponsors
>>>> Rep. Mary E. Flowers
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=1831> - Kelly M.
>>>> Cassidy <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=2002> - Linda
>>>> Chapa LaVia <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=1882> -
>>>> Greg Harris <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=1931> - La
>>>> Shawn K. Ford <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=1941>and
>>>> Emanuel Chris Welch <http://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=2039>
>>>>
>>>> Last Action
>>>> Date Chamber Action
>>>> 4/11/2014 House Rule 19(a) / Re-referred to Rules Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?committeeID=1197>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
>>>>
>>>> New Act
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Synopsis As Introduced
>>>> Creates the Illinois Universal Health Care Act. Provides that all
>>>> individuals residing in the State are covered under the Illinois
>>>> Health Services Program for health insurance. Sets forth the health
>>>> coverage benefits that participants are entitled to under the
>>>> Program. Sets forth the qualification requirements for
>>>> participating health providers. Sets forth standards for provider
>>>> reimbursement. Provides that it is unlawful for private health
>>>> insurers to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the
>>>> coverage of the Program. Provides that investor-ownership of health
>>>> delivery facilities is unlawful. Provides that the State shall
>>>> establish the Illinois Health Services Trust to provide financing
>>>> for the Program. Sets forth the requirements for claims billing
>>>> under the Program. Provides that the Program shall include funding
>>>> for long-term care services and mental health services. Provides
>>>> that the Program shall establish a single prescription drug
>>>> formulary and list of approved durable medical goods and supplies.
>>>> Creates the Pharmaceutical and Durable Medical Goods Committee to
>>>> negotiate the prices of pharmaceuticals and durable medical goods
>>>> with suppliers or manufacturers on an open bid competitive basis.
>>>> Sets forth provisions concerning patients' rights. Provides that
>>>> the employees of the Program shall be compensated in accordance
>>>> with the current pay scale for State employees and as deemed
>>>> professionally appropriate by the General Assembly.
>>>>
>>>> Actions
>>>> Date Chamber Action
>>>> 1/24/2013 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Mary E. Flowers
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=1831>
>>>> *1/25/2013* *House* *First Reading*
>>>> 1/25/2013 House Referred to Rules Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?GA=98&committeeID=1197>
>>>>
>>>> 2/4/2013 House Assigned to Health Care Availability and
>>>> Accessibility Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?GA=98&committeeID=1188>
>>>>
>>>> 2/8/2013 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Kelly M. Cassidy
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=2002>
>>>> 2/26/2013 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Linda Chapa LaVia
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=1882>
>>>> 2/26/2013 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. La Shawn K. Ford
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=1941>
>>>> 2/27/2013 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Greg Harris
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=1931>
>>>> 2/27/2013 House Chief Co-Sponsor Changed to Rep. Greg Harris
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=1931>
>>>> 3/7/2013 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Emanuel Chris Welch
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp?GA=98&MemberID=2039>
>>>> 3/21/2013 House Do Pass / Short Debate Health Care Availability
>>>> and Accessibility Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?GA=98&committeeID=1188>;
>>>> 005-003-000
>>>> 3/22/2013 House Placed on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate
>>>> *4/18/2013* *House* *Second Reading - Short Debate*
>>>> 4/18/2013 House Held on Calendar Order of Second Reading -
>>>> Short Debate
>>>> 4/19/2013 House Rule 19(a) / Re-referred to Rules Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?GA=98&committeeID=1197>
>>>>
>>>> 2/11/2014 House Approved for Consideration Rules Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?GA=98&committeeID=1197>;
>>>> 003-001-000
>>>> 2/11/2014 House Placed on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate
>>>> *4/11/2014* *House* *Rule 19(a) / Re-referred to Rules Committee
>>>> <http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?committeeID=1197>*
>>>>
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