[Peace-discuss] [Peace] FW: The Southern Poverty Law Center on the Holocaust "Revisionist" movement

Sat Jul 26 23:21:21 EDT 2014

wikipaedia saith regarding Godfrey's demise:

On 21 December, Miles Prance, Catholic servant-in-ordinary to England's 
Catholic Queen consort, Catherine of Braganza, was arrested and taken to 
Newgate prison. His lodger (who was in debt to Prance), John Wren, 
testified that he had been away for the four nights before Godfrey's 
body was discovered. Bedloe claimed to recognize him. Both statements 
are now thought to be lies, but this did not help Prance.

On 23 – 24 December, Prance announced that he had had a part in the 
murder but that the main instigators were three Catholic priests: Thomas 
Godden, head of the secular English clergy, and two Irish priests, Kelly 
and Fitzgerald. These priests witnessed the murder in the courtyard of 
Somerset House where Godfrey had been lured. Godfrey had been strangled 
and his body taken to Hampstead. Prance named as the actual killers 
three working men, Robert Green, Henry Berry and Lawrence Hill, who were 
arrested. Godden fled the country, while the two Irish priests simply 
vanished. As with most solutions to the murder, the main weakness was 
the absence of a plausible motive. Prance could only say, vaguely, that 
Godfrey had been harassing the priests in some way, which seems unlikely 
as he was noted for tolerance in religious matters.

Prance later recanted his confession before the king and the council and 
was thrown back to prison: he was threatened with torture, and nearly 
froze to death.   As a result he recanted his recantation and recanted 
two more times, ending up verifying his original story. At the trial he 
was a highly credible witness, although Hill's wife rightly prophesied 
"we shall see him recant after, when it is too late". [10]The three men 
were sentenced to death 5 February 1679 and hanged at Primrose Hill./For 
a time this was known as "Greenberry Hill", because of the hangings of 
Green, Berry and Hill./

Prance's story was later discredited and he pleaded guilty to perjury. 
Because the three men were executed on false evidence, and historians 
accept their complete innocence, the murder remains officially unsolved.

....

There have been many theories of what really happened to Godfrey and who 
killed him. He might have been murdered either by Catholics, who could 
have been afraid that he knew some of their/*real secrets*/; supporters 
of Oates because of his contacts to Catholics or because he knew Oates 
was lying; or just by random hooligans. Some claim suicide, either 
because Godfrey was in a quandary between Catholics and Anglicans and, 
due to his contacts to Coleman, possibly under suspicion or just because 
of his melancholy nature.

[There is no mention whatsoever of/*Jewry*/, so I find the whole
matter to be highly suspicious. - ewj]

On 07/27/2014 10:56 AM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss wrote:
> I think this should help clear things up:
>
> "In the /New York Herald,/ Nov. 26, 1911, there is an account of the 
> hanging of three men, for the murder of Sir Edmund Berry Godfrey, on 
> Greenberry Hill, London.^The names of the murderers were Green, Berry, 
> and Hill."  - Charles Hoy Fort, "Wild Talents", 1932.
>
> In correspondence to H. Allen Smith in 1932, H. L. Mencken denounced 
> Charles Fort as a */quack/*.  (quoted in H. A. Smith, "Low Man on a 
> Totem Pole", 1941).
>
> Accounts of Fort and the Fortean Society generally quote HL Mencken as 
> a follower of Fort, a thing which Mencken vehemently denies in his 
> correspondence to Smith (see above), who had included Mencken's name 
> among other Forteans in an 1932 obituary of CH Fort.
>
> PS:  C.H. Fort did not invent FORTRAN.
>
>
>
>
> On 07/27/2014 06:59 AM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss wrote:
>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss 
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
>> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> I can't help just being a product of my research....
>>
>> When you're "researching" in a sewer, it's no surprise that 
>> everything you fish out is a pile of crap.
>>
>> For the heck of it, I wandered over to "Veterans Today," the toilet 
>> you mistake for a feeding trough. Foilhatted Fetzer has figured out 
>> who knocked down MH17: Israel, of course! "In case anyone misses the 
>> point, the plane that went down in Ukraine appears to be the same 
>> plane that disappeared in Southeast Asia, Malaysian 370. The 
>> passengers appear to have been killed, perhaps en route to Diego 
>> Garcia, and the plane taken to Ukraine as part of an Israeli plan to 
>> distract attention from its slaughter in Gaza."
>>
>> Lunatic. Just a freakin' ravin' lunatic. But you'll follow him 
>> anywhere, even into Holocaust denial. Why? Because "Veterans Today" 
>> has eaten your brain.
>>
>>> Every piece of history can be connected to it precisely because
>>
>> Precisely because you're insane.
>>
>> @%<
>>
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