[Peace-discuss] Spies of Mississippi: The True Story of the Spy Network that Tried to Destroy the Civil Rights Movement

[David Green]

I learned from Weiner's book on the FBI that in fact J. Edgar Hoover wanted the FBI to be the CIA--to spy foreignly as well as domestically--which it did prior to the establishment of the CIA, which Hoover opposed.  



On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:01 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
  
See Tim Weiner, "Enemies: A History of the FBI" (2012).
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>A companion piece to his "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA" (2008)
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>On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Yes, the FBI was, and still does, seem like two very different groups. One more CIA-like -- discrediting people, creating lies, torturing people, creating anger and hatred -- the other actually solving some crimes (that their colleagues didn't commit) -- like Blagojevich for instance.
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>On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Here is an interesting example of the FBI undercover 
operations in the South during the 1960's ; 
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>>" In one particularly controversial 1965 incident, 
white civil rights worker Viola 
Liuzzowas murdered by Ku Klux 
Klansmen, who gave chase and fired 
shots into her car after noticing that her passenger was a young black man; one 
of the Klansmen was Gary Thomas Rowe, an acknowledged FBI informant.[53][54] The FBI spread rumors that Liuzzo was a member of the Communist Partyand had 
abandoned her children to have sexual relationships with African Americansinvolved in the Civil Rights Movement.[55][56] FBI records show that J. 
Edgar Hooverpersonally communicated 
these insinuations to President Johnson.[57][58] FBI informant Rowe has also been implicated in some of the most violent crimes 
of the 1960s civil rights era, including attacks on the Freedom Ridersand the 
1963 Birmingham, Alabama 16th Street Baptist Church bombing.[53] According to Noam 
Chomsky, in another instance in San 
Diego, the FBI financed, armed, and 
controlled an extreme right-wing group of former Minutemen, transforming 
it into a group called the Secret Army Organization that targeted groups, 
activists, and leaders involved in the Anti-War Movement, using both 
intimidation and violent acts ". 
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>>It is almost as if there were TWO FBI's with different 
policies and priorities, which of course could not be the case, especially 
with Hoover in charge.
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>>David Johnson 
>>----- Original Message -----  
>>>From: Karen  Medina  
>>>To: David Johnson  
>>>Cc: Peace-discuss  
>>>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:08 
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>>>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Spies of  Mississippi: The True Story of the Spy Network that Tried to Destroy the Civil  Rights Movement 
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>>>David Johnson wrote: > Was this part of  the FBI's cointelpro program ? 
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>>>The Mississippi  Sovereignty Commission started completely as a state of Mississippi entity.  But it lasted over, three possibly four governor's terms. The FBI had nothing  to do with it at first. The FBI entered the scene in 1964 when the 3 "Freedom  Summer" campaign volunteers disappeared. The FBI was investigating the  disappearance -- so they were working on the opposite side from the  commission.    
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>>>Later, toward the end of the commission's long life, there were people  who were paid by the commission who were also sharing information with the FBI  -- the commission was paying police officers who served "the public", the  Klan, and the commission. They shared reports. 
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>>>At least that is the way I understand it.  
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>>>-karen 
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>>>I just enjoyed a book:"Spies of Mississippi: The True Story of  the Spy Network that Tried to Destroy the Civil Rights  Movement"
>>>>>by Rick Bowers 
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>-- karen medina
>"The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain
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